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Speedplay and the case of the lazy foot(8 posts)

Speedplay and the case of the lazy footkrishna
Mar 25, 2002 7:04 PM
I just purchased speedplay X2 pedals. Went for my first ride yesterday and found that my right foot kept wanting to point inward at almost a 45 degree angle whenever I pedaled fast. Has this or something similiar ever happened to anyone? Is it something that will go away or should I start looking for other peds?

Note: I did an indoor ride today and while it didn't point in to quite that extreme, I spent most of the session worrying about it and making slight adjustments when I thought the foot was slipping inward... I can't imagine that this is good for the knee...
It seems extreme but ...McAndrus
Mar 26, 2002 6:10 AM
I just switched from Campagnolo to Speedplay and noticed something similar but not as extreme. I've been having pain on the outside of my left knee and thought because of Speedplay's reputation as being knee-friendly I'd give them a try.

My left foot, which was dead on straight in my Campy's and comfortable in the position, is now pushed heel-out a couple of degrees in the Speedplays. I'm assuming that's it's natural position and where it wants to be. If I stand and hammer in the Speedplays, the left heel moves in towards the chainstay.

I still have some pain in the knee but it seems to be improving with time.

45 degrees may seem extreme but I'd say if your foot's comfortable there then that's where it wants to be. Everyone's ankle structure is a little different.
re: Speedplay and the case of the lazy footOwenMeany
Mar 26, 2002 6:28 AM
Well, the advantage to Speedplays are that they allow your foot,leg and/or knee move in a more natural/comfortable manner. If your feet always "wanted" to point in one direction or another and could not with other peddels then there was (most likely) some stress being created the knee? And overtime could cause injury..

On the other hand you may just be going through some adjustment that you have the freedom to lay you foot where it wants you may be just seeing where it is best for you...(subconsiously)...

Ride through it...jn
re: Speedplay and the case of the lazy footJimP
Mar 26, 2002 11:55 AM
I would look at the position of the cleat / pedal shaft under the ball of the foot. I have had that sensation when the cleat was too far forward. You might want to move the cleat back a little bit.
sounds like the stabilizer musclesjw25
Mar 27, 2002 9:41 AM
are getting their first workout. I've read that there's an adaptation period for free-float pedals, and after a few rides, you'll find your feet flopping around less. As long as you're not unclipping, and your joints feel good, I'd give the peds a few more rides before swapping.
Personally, I'm intrigued by the Zero models, but don't have the cash to drop.
Mar 27, 2002 6:25 PM
... turns out the seat was too high. Soon as I lowered it my foot went back into "normal" position. Bit strange b/c it was only high by a two centimeters or so and I did not feel any difference as far as knee extension, but lowering certainly did the trick.

Many thanks to all who responded...
Only 2 cm???Kerry Irons
Mar 27, 2002 7:27 PM
I hope you mean only 2 mm. 2cm is 0.8 inches, a huge "error" in seat height. If it really was 2 cm, I'm surprised you didn't experience all kinds of discomfort.
Common problemTrekFurthur
Mar 28, 2002 6:27 AM
This is one of the first things that should be checked when getting Speedplays, but one of the last things people think about. The trick is the stack height; Speedplays are much lower than most other pedals. It took me a ride or two to figure it out also. It's a minor difference, but just enough.