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Ultegra shifter question from newbie(10 posts)

Ultegra shifter question from newbiercdude
Mar 17, 2002 8:51 PM
I just bought my first road bike after riding mountain bikes for many years. The bike came with 2002 or is it 2001 ultegra components with double chainring. My question is, when using the small chainring and then shifting to the big one, I go through two clicks on the shifter.

At this point, when I shift down to the small chainring while running any of the first 4 small cogs, I need to shift up just enough for me to hear/feel the first click or else hear the chain dragging on the front derailleur. Remember, it takes me two clicks to fully shift to the big chainring. Is this how it really works? I've gotten used to the idea that one click is one full shift on my mountain bike. Thanks for the help.
re: Ultegra shifter question from newbieg-money
Mar 17, 2002 10:10 PM
The "click" should be somewhat imperceptible. There is an intermediate click downshifting from the big to little ring. This is called "trim". Generally tho' it's not really felt on the upshift. It could be that some bone-head put a triple shifter on your bike, thus causing the second click. It sounds sort of odd...
re: Ultegra shifter question from newbiercdude
Mar 19, 2002 7:08 PM
But on my bike the intermediate click is on the upshift from small to big chainring. I don't get the intermediate click on the downshift.
Mar 20, 2002 8:14 PM
I just swapped Ultegra shifters for the new Dura Ace (they are SWEET) anyway, there really isn't a middle detent click on the upshift if installed and adjusted correctly. The downshift trim is very subtle and is not as defined as the Dura ace trim. However, I found the trim to be non-existant if the cable tension/der adjustment was not spot on. Take it to your shop and explain the deal. There really should not be a "dead" click on the upshift. It should be one full click into your big ring... That's the way mine were, and the way my wife's are. Her's are 2001, mine were 2002...

Good Luck
That's how it really works.laffeaux
Mar 18, 2002 12:37 AM
There are two clicks. One for the shift and one for trim. It's nice to have the trim, but like you say it's a little different than a MTB shift.
re: Ultegra shifter question from newbieChen2
Mar 18, 2002 7:10 AM
Shimano uses the same shifters for the double and the triple. With a double you really don't need the trim stop.
(The Dura-Ace doesn't have a trim stop.) You may need to take a little slack out of the cable.
re: Ultegra shifter question from newbieweiwentg
Mar 18, 2002 7:14 AM
as everyone else said, the intermediate click is for trimming your front derailleur in case the chain is rubbing against it. if you never get chain rub (I don't), just slam the levers all the way when you shift.
incidentally, as Chen2 said, there is no distinction between triple and double shifters for Ultegra and below.
Slam level all the way onceSingleThreaded
Mar 18, 2002 8:32 AM
When I slam my Ultegra level all the way once, I get a new gear. I don't have anychain rub on on the big ring/big freewheel combo or any other. I don't need to do any trimming. And I can't take any credit for it -- my LBS adjusted it. Ultegra indexed shifting when adjusted properly should be exactly as one could imagine.

Occasionally during the winter my levers wiffed altogether on shifts, but not more than 5 times in 400 miles.
Slam level all the way onceweiwentg
Mar 18, 2002 10:49 AM
>> don't need to do any trimming. And I can't take any credit for it -- my LBS adjusted it.<<

you can adjust the cable tension via the barrel adjuster such there's no need to trim. my current ride doesn't have barrel adjusters ...
but anyway, shift to the big chainring / big cog. trim the derailleur. then turn the barrel adjuster such that the inner plate is 1-2mm away from the chain (if I remember the instructions right - if not, Shimano Europe has them online).
Ultegra shifter is compatible with double or tripleBarnyard
Mar 18, 2002 9:28 AM
And the guy who set it up, probably does not know what's he's doing. You may pushing on the lever to take up the slack of cable need for a triple. I know a small bike time bike shop owner who builds up many soft bikes. He'd make a screw up like this. Go find someone who knows what they're doing.