Mar 14, 2002 9:51 PM
|From the Serotta brochure I got it's not clear if they use their 'fitting' system to custom build you a frame, or if it's aimed at helping them find the best stock frame for you. Was thinking about a legend ti or Concours, built in a compact style. I'm sure a guy posted one in the gallery last year that was similar.
Anyone know how these'd stack up in terms of price, weight and ride against the likes of the Merlin Agelis or Extralite Compact, or perhaps Seven??
Sadly I'm from UK (and have moved to New Zealand) and am not too familiar with any of these brands and am having trouble getting acurate info from importers. What's the pecking order of these m'fctrs hi end frames?
The Serotta dealer here in NZ couldn't help me much with info/pricing as I guess they don't sell so many, and Serotta haven't got back to me as they like you to work thru the dealer - catch 22.
|re: Serotta framesets||Len J|
Mar 15, 2002 5:24 AM
|A better place to ask this question is the Serrotta Owners forum:
|thank you Len.....||DannyBoy|
Mar 15, 2002 6:28 AM
|that's been a help.|
|I shopped 'em||jtolleson|
Mar 15, 2002 8:23 AM
|And if you go Legend Ti, the Serotta is basically more $$ than any of the manufacturers listed here. My recollection is that the Legend Ti was about $500 more than the Seven Axiom, with the only perk to the Legend is that it includes stock paint.
The Merlins will be cheaper still.
|re: Serotta framesets||davet|
Mar 15, 2002 9:40 AM
|DannyBoy: Serotta does use their fitting system to determine the exact dimensions of a frame that will be the best fit for you. The fitter will spend about two hours with you, and based on his skill and the use of the fit cycle, will come up with a fit sheet with the dimensions of the framesize. The fit sheet is then sent to Serotta where Kelly Bedford will plot out the new frame. It may happen that you fit a 'stock' dimensioned bike, but more often than not your needs will be different based on flexibilty, riding preferences and physical limitations. You had your Chas Roberts made to measure, so you probably don't fit a 'stock' frame.
Serottas prices generally INCLUDE custom sizing, so you should avail yourself of abilty to have a bike made specifically for you. If you go to the Serotta website you will see the retail prices on each frame (in USD). What your dealer may charge will be different, of course, based on rate exchange, transportation and duties.
The suggestion that you visit the Serotta owners phorum is a good one. While at the Serotta owners site, visit the image gallery and take a look at these photos:
as an example of the extemes that Serotta goes to to accomodate their customers. The owner of those bikes had some sever physical imitations that were accomodated.
Ask your questions, even ones regarding the 'Serotta VS anythingelse'. You will find that Serotta owners are reasonable, intelligent people and they will give you considered answers to your questions. No flames.
I own two Serottas and will probably have one or two more in my lifetime. As a matter of fact you have left some nice comments on them in the photo section. The stem you inquired about, by the way, is a Control Tech.
Serottas aren't cheap, but the care and quality with which they are made, and the RIDE, are absolutely top-drawer.
Good luck in your bike hunt, and keep us posted.
|Strong Custom Ti Frame||bobobo|
Mar 16, 2002 3:51 PM
|I just received my Strong Racing Frames custom titanium frame with slight compact geometry. Awesome bike with impeccable welds and perfect alignment. This thing rides like a rocket and the price was extremely reasonable for a custom fit titanium bike, $1,900 for the frame. Light, stiff and bulletproof.|
|Strong Custom Ti Frame||koala|
Mar 17, 2002 7:12 AM
|Is that a butted tubeset for 1900?|
|re: Serotta framesets||Skinnybones|
Mar 17, 2002 10:22 PM
|I just bought a Serotta Colorado III frameset with the F2 fork. I rode the Merlin Agelis, Seven Axiom, and felt that the steel frame Serotta felt better in most ways than the titanium in the others. I know it is certainly personal preference and I did notice how the titanium smooths out the road a little more but not $1500-2500 more in my opinion. I did ride both the Concours and Legend TI and felt, if I wanted to spend the money, they were still superior bikes to the Merlin and Seven. As Serotta clearly says, "it's in the tubes". I think their quality and experience outweigh all the high tech bikes out there and I firmly believe their steel frames will perform right alongside the titaniums in any class. Serotta builds bikes for you to build memories!|| |