|Lepper voyager leather saddle||jaredhartman|
Mar 13, 2002 7:06 PM
|I stopped by the usually overpriced LBS today and found an incredible deal. They had a lepper voyager (Reynolds 531 not titanium) that someone took off a 2001 Cannondale T2000, and they only wanted $40 for it. So I jumped on it since the flite gel I just got hasn't worked out. I have found some information on them and I know they are nice, but I was wondering if anyone has one or has any information about them. How often should I oil it? How do you like it? etc.|
|re: Lepper voyager leather saddle||bianchi|
Mar 14, 2002 12:16 PM
|Sheldon Brown's web site at Harris Cyclery now sells the Lepper saddles with ti rails for $99. I have seen some of these saddles at a LBS and they are very nice. A real bargain compared to the Brooks Swift, the only comparable lightweight leather saddle. According to the tag info at my LBS, Lepper does not recommend oiling their saddles, but I don't see what it would hurt. You got a great deal. If I found one for $40, I would jump on it. BTW, the ti Lepper saddle weighs only 330 grams, which is not much more than your typical Selle Italia saddles.|
|re: Lepper voyager leather saddle||Pjkad|
Mar 14, 2002 3:05 PM
|I ordered the Voyager Ti from Europe and got it a few weeks ago. Had few rides on it and I like it. The suspension of the leather over the Ti frame isolates me from the road and the width is right for me. A bit heavier than my previous Body Geometry but not by much. Much lighter than Brooks, although I read they are coming out with a new B-17 Ti model next month. No oiling required on Lepper. Feels like it will break in some but I'm not sure...have not had leather before. Cost was 105 Euros including shipping. Took only a week to get it.|
|re: re: Lepper voyager leather saddle||jaredhartman|
Mar 14, 2002 3:22 PM
|thanks for the responses. I all ready oiled mine in accordance with what Sheldon Brown recommends. I had no idea Lepper didn't advise oiling it, but I didn't get the little info packet either since it came off a bike. I hope it doesn't hurt it. The only problem I am having is with the tension bolt. It is able to turn itself back and forth in the threaded part of the front bridge which is causing it to make an unwanted noise and allowing the saddle to twist somewhat. I think this is a result of my soaking it in oil and possibly loosening the bolt; I don't think it will have any effect on the durability, but I surely don't know that. I do know that it is annoying the hell out of me. I am going to see what Sheldon Brown recommends, but any advice would be appreciated on a possible fix. And, just to let you know, after about about a 17 mile ride down to and back from the book shop, the saddle is all ready starting to soften up making my fixed gear pista even more of a joy, and is definitely more comfortable than my previous SLR and Flite Gel.|
|send this guy an email ...||bianchi boy|
Mar 14, 2002 8:05 PM
|Gilbert at North Road Bike Co in Raleigh, NC, email email@example.com. He sells Moulton foldable bikes, which come equipped with Lepper saddles, and is very familiar with them. He is a super nice guy and extremely knowledgeable about bikes, and has used a Lepper saddle on his personal bike. He might also be able to advise you on whether to oil the saddle or whether it makes any difference if you've already done so.|
|re: send this guy an email ...||jaredhartman|
Mar 14, 2002 10:24 PM
|thank you, i will give it a shot|
|give us an update||tarwheel|
Mar 15, 2002 5:21 AM
|After you've used the Lepper saddle a while, let us know how it works out. I'm still thinking about buying one. I'm trying out a Terry Fly right now, but might have to return it. Got a bad case of the numb nuts on my first ride with it, which could have been due to improper positioning.|
|re: give us an update||jaredhartman|
Mar 17, 2002 9:16 PM
|Well, it hasn't been that long, but I am ready to give an update. The saddle was the best I ever had as far as soft tissue pressure goes. Someone sould ride all day and would never feel anything. All weight it supported on the sit bones. However, for me and my steep seat tube bike, the saddle just didn't work. My hip is killing me right now. To be comfortable on the bike I need to be far behind the pedals and my post won't allow the saddle to go back far enough. As a result, me weight all falls on the steel bridge and after a fast 11 miles to the video stroe I was hurting. I was thinking about a post with more setback, as you could see in a post above, but the Look post is only one I know of with real setback and light weight. So I am just going to get a saddle with some cushion near the rear.
As far as numb nut pressure goes, it is amazing. It works better than my Serfas ddvado which has a large cut-out. But, for my situation, it just didn't work. If you don't have to sit on the very end of your saddle, I definitely recommend it.
With that said, if anyone is interested in a Lepper, email me. I will sell it for a reasonable price. I would surely rather do that than pay to use ebay.
|re: terry fly||jakerider|
Mar 15, 2002 6:54 AM
I just replaced my terry. I experienced the nummies also. The fly seems "too soft" if that is possible.
It is an unusual feeling, once you are in the sweet spot of the saddle you can't get out.
Mar 17, 2002 7:23 PM
|I tried the Fly for three rides, including a 52-miler, and it's just too soft for me. As you implied, you kind of sink into it. The surface is also textured, making it harder to move around. Too bad. It's a nice, light-weight saddle. Back to my TransAm Max for now.|
|Lepper voyager leather saddle CARE!||Skinnybones|
Mar 17, 2002 10:36 PM
|I've been riding Brooks leather saddles for about 15years and did a 15000 mile 1 year tour through Europe on one sponsered by Brooks. Brooks (before they got bought out) tolds us in very certain terms never to oil or treat in any way the underside of a leather saddle. They recommend their waterproofing (Proofide) treatment. They did say if you oiled the underside not to touch the topside then because the saddle needs one side to breath. They also said not to bake it or heat it. Just put waterproofing or light oil on the top and ride it. It is also important to tighten the tensioner every so often to keep the shape and feeling consistent over your life. If you properly take care of a leather saddle it should last the rest of your life. Mine are. It probably is better to put nothing on a Lepper saddle than to soak it in oil. The saddles will break in just by riding it. The waterproofing is just to help out when it does get wet and aids the break-in period some. I think they are the most comfortable saddles in the world and with the new titanium frames they are suitable for road bikes. Good luck!|
|re: Lepper voyager leather saddle CARE!||jaredhartman|
Mar 18, 2002 6:03 AM
|thanks for your views. I have gotten many contradictory opinions on what should be done with leather saddles ( not all from this site), but eventually I think I will see some common ground. This is, however, the first time I have heard anyone say not to oil both sides. Thanks again for your comments.|| |