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what's the best carbon fork...(6 posts)

what's the best carbon fork...chainsmoke
Apr 23, 2001 8:12 PM
to match up on the following frame...

I've got a brand new 2000 paramount ti frame which is stocked with a time millinium threaded 1" carbon fork that I want to change out.

Also,
what are the pros/cons(and which is the better fork system) of threaded and threadless forks?

can I switch to threadless w/o problems here ?

Thanks
Define "Best"grz mnky
Apr 24, 2001 8:56 AM
What is your objective criteria (cost, weight, looks, country of origin, etc.) or is it a popularity contest?

What's wrong with your current Time fork and why do you want to swap it out? You can argue both sides of the threaded/threadless debate, but switching from one to the other requires a different headset (or a conversion kit if avail.) and a different stem, plus you may need to get involved with spacers and stack height.
looking to upgrade..chainsmoke
Apr 24, 2001 2:42 PM
to a fork lighter and stiffer than the time millinium currently stocked(cost not a problem).
also, would the threadless fork/stem system prove ultimately lighter than traditional threaded system?
looking to upgrade..grz mnky
Apr 24, 2001 2:57 PM
Well if you want lighter then think either carbon or ti threadless steerer. You can go super light into the sub 350 g. category, but stiffness, durability, geometry should be considered. lots of good forks in this class from Colnago, Kestrel, Kenisis, Time, Reynolds, Wound-Up, Serotta, etc. I traded my steel steerer Time for a Reynolds Ouzo Pro and have nothing but good things to say about it. I'm sure there are many others that can vouch for the other makes. Probably best if you go with the 1-1/8" if it will work on your frame.

The "best" thing is quite subjective and there aren't any simple answers. Everyone will tell you that model XXX is the best b/c _________. If it were really that obvious then we'd all be using it.

Since cost isn't an issue you should be looking at a Chris King NoThreadset and mate it with a nice threadless stem from Ritchey (WCS) or one of the others. Since you're going 1-1/8" you won't need a shim.

Leave your fork long initialy so that you can determine the correct number of spacers for your fit.

You should end up with a sweet looking cockpit that likes to corner and makes absolutely no noise. You should be able to drop at least 1/2 lbs. when all parts are accounted for.
re: what's the best carbon fork...DrD
Apr 24, 2001 6:45 PM
As GM pointed out, best is pretty subjective. If you want really light, the Look HSC's and Reynolds Ouzo Pro get good reviews from many people - however, if you ride a larger frame, the combination of a 1" carbon steerer tube with a long headtube makes for a pretty flexy setup. Other options would be the Kestrel EMS with a Ti or steel steerer, or an AME alpha-q with a Ti steerer...

For a headset, if cost is no object, I would go with a Chris King nothreadset. For the fork, I would probably do an AME alpha-Q with a Ti steerer (it would go well with the bike!).

pros/cons of threadless - pro- can adjust everything with a few allen wrenches, depending on component selection can be a little lighter, and the current direction the industry is moving. con - harder to adjust stem height.

You can switch easily - you just need a new headset, fork, and stem.
thanks to all...chainsmoke
Apr 25, 2001 11:11 PM
who took the time to reply with valuable imputs, I'm currently on a waterford 1200 w/ crown steel forks,ibis quill stem, and full dura-ace(incl. whls), and love the ride and the manufactorers at waterferd are top notch (I think this ones staying in the corral).
So, I've come across the paramount Ti frame, and after the beginnings to my research of carbon forks + the threadless system, I've concluded the need to upgrade the stock millinium time fork, as I'm used to the stability/stiffness of the steel fork,yet I want the weight value of an upgraded version of carbon fork.
the frame ,btw, is a 55 cm. w/ a 1" head tube. I like the idea of the metal steerer here over the carbon, and you've reassured my intrest in the threadless system as well. The itm "the stem" looks inviting .