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One last thing - wheel upgradefrom Open Pro/Chorus.(7 posts)

One last thing - wheel upgradefrom Open Pro/Chorus.DannyBoy
Mar 6, 2002 9:31 PM
I've been riding on Mavic Open Pro's laced 32/32 with DT d/b stainless steel spokes onto Chorus 10 2001 hubs.

What would the front/rear weigh. I'm looking to upgrade to something lighter and maybe a deeper rim and wanna know what they weigh so I can make comparisons.

Looks like there's a hell of a choice out there!!
I've done some maths and.....DannyBoy
Mar 7, 2002 12:54 AM
If Open Pro's are 425g each, + 180g for Chorus front hub + 326g for rear and c360g for 64 DT double butted stainless spokes you're looking at about 1,700g for the pair.

So what's a good upgrade, but affordable bearing in mind weight is important on rotational items.

Stuff by LEW and ZIPP would be too pricey right? and 404's are only a bit lighter at 1537g a pair, things like Mavic Cosmic Carbon weigh more (although more aero I guess), Ksyrium Elites are about same weight, new ssc SL's lighter....

So what's the best way forward???
odds and endosSpirito di Finocchio
Mar 7, 2002 3:26 AM
wheels of integrity and balance and made by an honest and hardworking guy.

the calculation below will give you about 1370 grams and will be a touch more aero due to the radial front. ask him to change the spec of the rear hub to the campy version made by bill shook (aka american classic) and it will probably cost you $30 odd dollars more. and if you can beat that at $334 i will have to see it to beleive it. his rep/wheels are not to be sneezed at and his warranty/gaurantee is solid.\prg\fm\viewcart?mode=&uid=1000052220&nxtcatnum=2&nxtcatname=Wheels&belowstockprod=&rand=67
Thanks very much, I'll take a look...DannyBoy
Mar 7, 2002 10:34 PM
I can't open that link, another route?DannyBoy
Mar 7, 2002 10:39 PM
yeah...Spirito di Finocchio
Mar 8, 2002 6:06 AM

the link i had was just a shopping cart page where i had chosen a front wheel (am. classic 28h rim w/ 14/17 and alloy nipples on micro front hub) and a rear wheel(am.classic 32h rim w/ wheelsmith db and brass nipps on cassette hub)) but you would have to enquire with him how much extra it will be for a campy hub version which am. classic have the option of but im not sure how much extra it is. it may not be any extra charge but he does not stock them although he can order them. contrary to what the mind says it is still a pretty strong wheel combo.

read on his policies and gaurantee and also that fact that he charges nothing for a color change or spoke variance. and ive yet to find better value. he is all th rage with a lot of mtb'ers and that cant be a bad rep to have as they dont spare their wheels. but in fairness i haven't had a set of wheels from him but i have spoken to him about a build i am planning.

and best of all he delivers c.o.d which i always like.
Mar 8, 2002 7:36 AM
he posts as Bianchiforme over at and he's a very cool guy and seems to be a very competant wheelbuilder with very good, honest pricing. Not sure those AC hubs have a great track record, though...