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Speedplay X1, X2 pedals(17 posts)
|Speedplay X1, X2 pedals||Jamboree|
Feb 27, 2002 9:21 PM
|Anyone ride these pedals? What do you think of them as far as comfort, durability and cost.|
|re: Speedplay X1, X2 pedals||weiwentg|
Feb 27, 2002 9:35 PM
|X2s are GREAT!! but you should attempt to try them on first. some people cannot get used to the free float.
pluses: light, dual sided, float (saves knees)
minuses: some say the platform is too small (certainly the platform is smaller than the Look pedals), free float.
durability: Speedplay does not recommend that riders over 185lbs (I think) use the X1. as for bearing durability, I have heard no complaints. they should be greased every few thousand miles. don't get X3s if you can avoid it; the bearings are not as good as X1s and X2s.
cost: they're not cheap, that's for sure. see if you can get them used.
|re: Speedplay X1, X2 pedals||DrD|
Feb 28, 2002 6:12 AM
|I ride the X2's and love them! Great pedals - as already pointed out, you might want to try before you buy as some people have trouble with the free float and the wide release angle (I switched from spd's and had no trouble whatsoever) |
The main advantages of the pedal are the free float, light weight, basically no chance of unintentional release (you won't pull your foot off of these - you have to rotate out), and ease of maintenance (you get a fitting to inject grease into the bearings every now and then, and all it takes is a little white lightning ot other dry lube on the cleat spring and outside of the pedals). Speedplay also argues that they get your foot closer to the pedal axle which is important (I am not so sure that even matters, but that's what they say) - also, as the pedal is small, you have a larger cornering angle.
Disadvantage can be the free float (at least one rider on this board had troubles with this), the smallish platform, and a more complex cleat than something like a look pedal (also, the cleats are more expensive, but if maintained properly will last a long time)
The X/1 and X/2 both use two cartridge bearings, and one needle bearing, while the X/3 uses only one cartridge bearing and a bushing. In addition, the X1 has a Ti axle (and 185lb rider limit), the X2 has a stainless steel axle (PH17-4, I think) and the X3 a chromoly axle. A variety of spindle lengths are available.
The X2 is probably the best bang for the buck of the 3, the X1 is the ultralight one, and the X3 is not going to last as long as the other two.
There are similar pedal systems - Bebop (there are a couple of people who like those - they will probably chime in soon) and Coombe.
|re: Speedplay X1, X2 pedals||netso|
Feb 28, 2002 6:56 AM
|I have had my X2 pedals for about 2 years, they are great.
I love the float, got used to this the first ride. This aspect has really helped my knees. They are double sided, easy to engage/disengage. They are light. I have the cleat covers making it easier to walk. My cleats have lasted almost 2 years. I love them!
|re: Speedplay X1, X2 pedals||JimP|
Feb 28, 2002 7:03 AM
|I have been riding with X1s for over 2 years now and have liked them so much that I bought a pair of X3s for my wind trainer bike. Keep the cleats clean by using the covers and use white lightning on the cleats and pedals and they will last a long time.|
Feb 28, 2002 7:34 AM
|How do you determine proper spindle length?||TDFWatcher|
Feb 28, 2002 7:55 AM
|Also, are they really lighter than other manufacturers pedals when you add in the larger sized cleats which they require?|
|Are they lighter than other pedals when you consider the cleats?||TDFWatcher|
Feb 28, 2002 7:57 AM
|yes, I believe so.||weiwentg|
Feb 28, 2002 8:29 AM
|they're certainly lighter than most pedals. I know Keywins are lighter, and I think the Record Pro-fit (cleats and all) is lighter than the X2. could be wrong about that last bit.|
|yes, I believe so.||CampyBoy|
Feb 28, 2002 8:40 AM
|Are the Speedplay X2 pedals compatible with Nike Poggio road shoes and if so are any special cleats or adapters needed?|
Feb 28, 2002 9:02 AM
|I have Nike Poggio shoes and X-2's. The X-2's fit with no special adapters.|
|Thanks DCP, by the way||CampyBoy|
Feb 28, 2002 9:28 AM
|Do you think the X2's give you an adequate platform to really get out of the saddle and pound on? This is probably my only concern with the Speedplay series, that the platform is not big enough or is this a non-issue. Also, how do the X2's compare with the new Zero series?|
|Out of saddle hammering is no problem - nm||McAndrus|
Feb 28, 2002 9:34 AM
|Thanks DCP, by the way||DCP|
Feb 28, 2002 2:43 PM
|I have only had the X-2's for three weeks. Just like most people say, standing and hammering is weird at first but that feeling goes away quickly. Every once in a while, I will forget, stand and momentarily think my crankarm is falling off, but I expect to be totally used to it in a few more rides.
Speedplay likes to say that the small platform is not an issue because the cleat surrounding the pedal spreads the load across a large area on the foot. I don't know if the attachment to the pedal is so firm that this is true, but I sure haven't noticed any problems. The carbon fiber sole on the Poggio shoes is so stiff, that it may have something to do with it, but it is probably true with any good shoe.
I looked at the Zero's, but they seemed like the same product compromised so that folks used to traditional pedals could adapt more readily. I figured that if others could adapt to the float and release of the X-2's, I could too. Besides, I could sell lightly used X-2's without too much loss if I didn't like them.
As for that free float, I have not had any serious knee problems in the past, only some minor ones. Nonetheless, I can see each foot moving when I pedal and I have got to believe these pedals are better than pedals with float but which self-center.
|Thanks DCP, by the way||weiwentg|
Feb 28, 2002 6:58 PM
|>>Do you think the X2's give you an adequate platform to really get out of the saddle and pound on?<<
yes. caveat: I weigh 120 pounds. is it stable, considering the free-float? in my case, yes.
as for the new Zeros: no direct experience. Speedplay's marketing blurbs say that you can choose free or non-free float. 0-15 degrees, which is less than the 23 degrees on the X series. the cleats are said to be more durable - and yes, the X cleats do need considerable babying.
|X/1 vs Zeros||Geex|
Mar 1, 2002 6:01 AM
|Functionally, the only difference between the two pedals is the Zero's independent adjustment of the inward and outward release points. The two systems are
|Thanks for all the responses guys||ChorusBoy|
Mar 1, 2002 1:46 PM
|Today I testrode a bike at a LBS equipped with a used pair of the X2's and loved them. They did feel very strange at first as I was worried I was releasing out of my clips, but after about a 1/2 hour and a few good little climbs on some local hills I started to get the feel of them and they did feel great.
My lovely sister gave me a $100 gift certificate to Colorado Cyclist last month and I just used it today to buy a pair of X2's for $74 balance. I can't wait to get these pedals hooked up to my bike.
By the way, my LBS wanted $199 for them which i thought was way too much. I ended up buying a pair of socks from them and a new bottle cage though.