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bodyweight vs. spoke count5ive
Feb 14, 2002 12:35 PM
Hi all.

I'm thinking about building a custom wheelset. I'm pretty sure what rims and hubs I want (both American Classic), but I'm not sure about the type of spokes and # of spokes. I'm looking for lightweight wheels, so I'm looking into wheelsmith XL14, DT Rev's, or Sapim x-rays. On the front, I'm considering 24 spokes, and 28 on the rear. Any ideas or suggestions?

PS: I'm 5'9 150lbs. and mostly ride average/below-average roads.

Thanx.
Tensile strength isn't usually an issue.Spoke Wrench
Feb 14, 2002 2:21 PM
Torsional strength is. Unless you have some pretty significant wheelbuilding experience, you'll find you'll have all kinds of spoke wind up problems before you get adequate and even tension on all of the spokes.
Riding styleKerry Irons
Feb 14, 2002 4:58 PM
If you ride "light" then you should not have a problem with 24/28 and any of the spokes you mention. The real question is whether the rim is up to the task. The lower the spoke count, the stronger the rim must be to distribute the forces and prevent spoke pull-through. If you're an experienced wheel builder, this should be straightforward. If this is your first (or nearly first) set of wheels, you'd best be careful, as you may be pushing your own envelope.
not sure on the rimsjw25
Feb 16, 2002 10:12 AM
I recently built up some 32 hole American Classic hubs to CXP-33's. I'm about your height and weight (okay, 10 lbs. lighter), and wanted something light, but stiff, since I tend to mash. I almost went with Open Pro's, but a friends have both developed the "click".
I used Sapim Laser spokes, mainly because they're different, and I have a good relationship with Thor (Thorusa.com). I considered the x-rays, but was put off by their cost. I'm sure they're nice, but ouch!
I've built wheels with Revo's and Wheelsmith XL-14's, and honestly, windup isn't that big an issue. You do need to grease the nipple seats and spoke threads, but after that, it's just a matter of feel. Comes with practice, I suppose.
So, are these race wheels, or everyday riders? If they're race, I'd have no hesitation using the AC rims and 24/28 spokes. You might find yourself truing them more often, but they should last a few seasons. For everyday riding, however, I'd really suggest something else. For lower-count builds, especially on rougher roads, you want a more rigid rim. For a few grams, you could step up to a Velocity Aerohead, which has a pretty good reputation, and should come in 24 hole drilling.
Hope this helps.