|Shimano shifting components||Eva|
Feb 13, 2002 12:41 AM
|Does anyone really feel a difference between Tiagra and 105, or 105 and Ultegra shifting components to warrant paying the few hundred dollars difference in price?
I am looking to buy a new road bike and wonder if Tiagra is sufficient enough in terms of durability and smoothness. Has anyone had any problems with Tiagra?
|I wouldn't drop below 105||Paul|
Feb 13, 2002 4:17 AM
|but I only use Ultegra and Dura Ace. There were problems with the 8 speed 105 components. I had problems and so did some friends. In my club, there are members that have 105 9 speed, and I haven't heard any complaints. The big difference is in weight, and finish. Shimano has designed the 105 and up to be interchangable. Not sure about the Tiagra. |
I would mix and match between Ultegra, and Dura Ace. For ex., Ultegra brakes, but Dura Ace shifters. Only 20 grams difference between the brakes, but 100.00 or so in price. It may cost you up front, but it will be cheaper in the long run as quality lasts.
|re: Shimano shifting components||Rockit|
Feb 13, 2002 9:12 AM
|I don't see much differance in quality between Tiagra and 105. I think that the Tiagra group is a good entry level system for roadies. I have all Tiagra with a Suntour triple crank on my Specialized Alez. Currently, my milage on this ride is at 3,512 and I have had virtually no problems with these componants. I had to spend some time in the early going dialing in the adjustment for the rear derailleur. After accomplishing that, I've never had to touch it. And I've never had any shifter rattle problems like some riders have with Ultegra.|
|re: Shimano shifting components||weiwentg|
Feb 13, 2002 10:29 AM
|my Tiagra shifters lasted over a thousand miles before I swapped them out for used DAs ... actually they were really doing fine.
as for my cassette ... it's 2000 miles with a 120lb rider, and the stupid thing is shifting very roughly. I think it's dying. YMMV.
|105 and up||Muncher.|
Feb 13, 2002 10:20 AM
|I have used 105 for years, because I have never had a problem with it, can't tell the difference between it and ultegra, and no way am I going to pay the price hike to DA. Weight for me (in that gramme/$ bracket)is not an issue. That said, I am currently running a Ultergra block on my 105 set up, as I needed a ratio change, and the ultegra block was a lot lighter for not a lot more $, so I thought "why not". I have heard a lot of bad stories about Ultegra shifters, but have no personal experience.
All that said, I would probably not drop below 105, as there seems to be a big quality difference from Tiagra to 105. Depends on how hard you ride and your milage I suppose. Of course, you can always upgrade cheaply when/if parts wear out.
|Think Tiagra's ok||Marlon|
Feb 14, 2002 7:17 AM
|I think Tiagra's just fine now - Shimano finally got it right and has produced an entry-level group that works well and should be fairly durable.
My girlfriend recently bought a Trek 1200 with full Tiagra, and all I can say is that shifting quality is just fine, perhaps slightly clunkier than my Ultegra, but not by much. This is from my experience of having to borrow her bike a few times:) Not sure about the durability, but I think it should be fine. Like anything else, if you have the cash, go higher, but otherwise if you need to save a few bucks, Tiagra will do the job.
I think most of the people on the forum started out with 105, hence most of the admonishments that 105 should be the lowest "good" type of shifters you go with, but having started out with RSX and gradually moved up, I have no qualms about using Tiagra (although I was pretty dubious at first).
|Think Tiagra's ok||weiwentg|
Feb 15, 2002 10:31 AM
|I started out with Tiagra. after 2000 miles - with a 120 pound rider, mind you - the shifting on the cassette is very ka-CHUNK!!!y. not good. the shifters held up fine. the front derailleur was a pain to adjust (it was a triple, though). the BB's bearings were not particularly smooth.|
|re: Shimano shifting components||robbz27|
Feb 14, 2002 11:57 AM
|It can be hit or miss...All my experiences have been miss. Used to work in a shop and if I had a dollar for every time I got frustrated trying to adjust Tiagra I could have afforded to take the whole winter off of work.|| |