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Carbon Fork question? Kestrel or Reynolds?(4 posts)

Carbon Fork question? Kestrel or Reynolds?bigdave
Feb 5, 2002 7:07 AM
Howdy folks...

I wonder if any of you have experience with both the Kestrel EMS Pro and the Reynolds Ouzo Pro to offer a comparison between the two. I'm basically looking for a general compare/contrast about ride, handling, etc.

Anyone?

I am actually looking at these two forks for this reason: CrMo steerer and all carbon everything else. Forks like the Ouzo Comp, Columbus Muscle, etc, use alloy steerers, but also alloy crowns. So, the only difference between my current crummy alum fork and those is a bit of carbon between the crown and the dropouts. Not enough in my book.

But the Ouzo Pro (they do make it in a CrMo steerer) and the EMS are all carbon apart from the steerer. And, the reason I am going CrMo with the steerer is because my head tube is 1" and I go 180-5 at my anemic lightest. I think I am too burly for an all-carbon 1" fork in a 59 cm frame.

Any thoughts?

Thanks for all input.

--Dave
get the lightest one you can trust.Bikeman
Feb 6, 2002 2:31 AM
I own the Kestrel 650c pro aero fork. It is good, and the ride is remarkably vibration-dampening. My wrist used to hurt on my other bike (now it doesn't) and I think it is the new fork making the difference.

IMO I'd go with the reynolds all-carbon model, or the alphaQ all-carbon model. C/F is actually stiffer than chromoly isn't it? I think the Kestrel fork is OK, but it weighs approx 640grams, and the alphaQ or reynolds probably weigh under 400grams. That's quite a difference, and now I wish I had have bought the alphaQ fork, because everyone seems to think it's very good (www.alphaQfork.com). I weigh 145, but I don't think 180 is beyond the limits of an all-carbon fork.
Remember, theoretically composites are stronger than any chromoly :-)
True, but us "Clydes" might need metal...bigdave
Feb 6, 2002 11:05 AM
Basically I think that works well, and if I had a frame with a 1-1/8 head tube, I'd be *all over* the Ouzo Pro all carbon. Carbon is supposed to be stronger than metal, you're right.

But I know some big guys who have had 1" carbon steers have complained about it being noodly, even when using the recommended amount of spacers. Throw them on a metal steerer fork of the same brand and the squirrely-ness goes away.

I think the strength of carbon to steel you mention is correct. It just might not be a heads-up comparison in the 1" configuration... ie: the steel might have greater wall thickness, or something.

I'm no engineer, but just going by what some other big riders with tall steerers have experienced.

--Dave
True, but us "Clydes" might need metal...Bikeman
Feb 6, 2002 10:20 PM
Yes I agree with you that wall thickness of the steerer would be a factor.
But know this before you buy: Some Kestrel forks (mine included) are made in Taiwan.
Now I'm not having a go at Kestrel (I own a 500EMS and I think it is exceptional) but the fact didn't sit too well when I took the fork off to cut the steerer and saw a "made in Taiwan" sticker on it. Up 'til then I thought that every single part on my dream bike was either made in USA or Italy (except the german conti tires/Japanese ergobrain computer/English USE seatpost).
Having said that, I can't find anything wrong with the quality of the finish of the fork.
Cheers!