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Ultegra and Dura Ace Hubs????(7 posts)

Ultegra and Dura Ace Hubs????hubert
Jan 17, 2002 7:22 AM
I am buying a new wheelset, are the dura-ace hubs worth an extra $60-70 over the ultegra hubs?

Thanks :)
re: Ultegra and Dura Ace Hubs????Mike Prince
Jan 17, 2002 7:54 AM
Depends on your objective(s). The D/A hubs are definetely lighter due to their titanium freehub assembly. Also, the bearings races are of a higher quality (more polished).

Having said that, with proper care/lubrication, you probably will feel no difference between the two. The Ultegras may wear out sooner (not much) given the same maintenance, but they are still a top-quality cup-and-cone hubset.

If a little extra weight is of no concern and you're not stuck on the Dura Ace label, save the money and go with Ultegra. $60-$70 is probably better spent somewhere else. Invest it in better tires and you will feel more difference in the wheels than the hubs will influence.
Ultegra.jw25
Jan 17, 2002 11:17 AM
In my eyes, the weight loss between D-A and Ultegra is pretty slight for the cost, and remember, it's weight lost at a less important place. With wheels, the real place to go light is farther out, with the nipples, rim, tape, tubes, and maybe tires (I value reliability over weight there).
As Mike said, the real difference between the two is the ti freehub body, the axles (al front, ti rear), I believe. The bearing races should be identically smooth, as both have the "borazon" treatment, whatever that may be. Put fresh bearings and grease in once a year, and adjust properly, and either should last years.
If you really want ultralight hubs, there's better ways to go, that aren't much more expensive. For instance, I nabbed a set of American Classic hubs (68g front, 220g rear) from Ebay for $120 shipped. Even with skewers, that blows D-A out of the water, and they're pretty reliable.
So, my advice is go Ultegra, and spend that $60 on nicer spokes, nips, rims, etc. I dopn't think you'll regret it.
re: Ultegra and Dura Ace Hubs????gtx
Jan 17, 2002 11:26 AM
well, I vote for Dura Ace. I'm still in the dark ages with my road wheels (I have four sets of old school Campy Record hubs w/DA freewheels) but have more experience with mtb hubs. The cassette bodies on the LX and XT hubs are TERRIBLE and the bearin/race quality isn't that hot either, whereas the XTR freehub body is excellent. My guess is that it is the same deal for 105/Ultegra vs. Dura Ace, but of course I could be wrong. The other nice thing about getting Dura Ace is you won't second guess your decision later. but in the end, as the others mention, rim and tire weight are much more important.
man!gtx
Jan 17, 2002 11:34 AM
I gotta proof my posts!

"cassette bodies on the LX and XT hubs"--meant freehub bodies.

Another reason to go DA--you'll probably rebuild a wheel with a DA hub whereas most people don't bother with Ultegra hubs. Or maybe that's a bad thing--that's what got me into this mess with the old Campy hubs--the darn things won't wear out!
Must replyJaybo
Jan 25, 2002 4:30 PM
The Shimano XT/LX series hubs are very nice ball and cone hubs. They are fairly heavy, but inexpensive, easy to rebuild, and very nice. Why do you think they are terrible?

Signed,

They can't all be wrong loving these hubs.
re: Ultegra and Dura Ace Hubs????DrD
Jan 18, 2002 4:15 AM
Functionally - well maintained, both will probably feel about the same.

The main things you gain with DA - better fit and finish, lighter weight, titanium freehub, stainless bearings, better bearing races, aluminum front axle, and nicer skewers - quite a bit for $60!