Jan 12, 2002 8:26 AM
|I am looking at buying a used Torelli frame (their Nitro Express model) I have checked out their website and it looks like a very nice frame......does anyone have any experiences with Torelli?|
|The Bike Lover's Frame||TJeanloz|
Jan 12, 2002 11:13 AM
|Torelli frames may well be the most underrated production frames in the U.S. market. It's a pretty small and unknown brand when compared to Trek or Bianchi, but one thing sets them apart. Bill (a.k.a. "Chairman Bill") is one of the most passionate people in the entire cycling industry. The man loves bikes. And Bill is (essentially) the company. Call them up, he answers the phone, be carefull, or he'll talk cycling forever. He's been selling frames for 20 years- and has developed some key relationships in the industry over that time.
He doesn't build any frames. He's not a framebuilder and doesn't pretend to be. He spec's all of his work out to Italian builders, who build whatever he asks them to. The Nitro Express has been his top steel racing bike for a few years. It is build in Concorezzo (Italy) by the venerable Mondonico shop. The Nitro Express is build with the highest end steel available at the time it is built- currently Columbus Foco (older models use different tubesets). I'll say that it is probably the best production steel frame available in the U.S.
To sum things up, Torelli sells great frames, and you can't go wrong with the Nitro Express.
|I have one||mickey-mac|
Jan 12, 2002 1:03 PM
|I got a Nitro Express in early '96 and have put many happy miles on it. As Mr. Jeanloz says, this frame is built by Mondonico, and the workmanship is superior. It's not the lightest frame around, but it's a solid performer. I've used mine in everything from short crits to 120 mile rides. IMO, you really can't go wrong with this frame. FWIW, it's also a very nice looking frame. With the possible exception of an old Medici I had in the '80s, the Torelli has gotten more compliments than any other frame I've owned. If it fits and you can get a good deal, grab it.|
|They are A+||Greenie|
Jan 12, 2002 2:50 PM
|I have a super countach from 1999. I have a trek OCLV too.
First, the Super Countach was made by Mondonico. It has since been replaced by the Mondonico Futuro Leggero with Columbus Torelli/Nemo Tubing. The SC has the same geometry as the Nitro, just different (lesser) tubing.
I like the way the torelli rides. The best part is decending--the Torelli/mondonico is rock-solid stable. You should be happy with it, provided it fits. Check out the torelli website to compare with your current ride. The geometry is classic, stage-race Italian. Depending on your needs this is good or bad. Either way, with EL-OS tubing, you will experience the RIDE!
Mondonico makes trips to the US every year or two. You may be able to get a custom fitting by the Maestro himself, if you are patient.
The frames are about 4 pounds, which isn't light be today's standards, but I don't feel that frame weight is such a big deal. Nice wheels make a bigger difference. Steel is for real. (i like carbon too.)
Good luck and let us know if you want more details!
|re: Torelli Frames?????||alexfr99|
Jan 13, 2002 9:52 AM
|thank you all very much for your informative responses.....you helped me make up my mind....I'm gonna get it...|
|re: Torelli Frames?????||conorb|
Jan 14, 2002 10:56 AM
|I had an opportunity to meet Antonio Mondonico and his son Mauro in November during Mondonico's West Coast tour. I also met Chairman Bill and he is definitely passionate about cycling and their frames. He's not Italian himself but I think he wishes he was.
It was really fantastic getting measured for a frame by the master himself. He recommended frame size, tubing selection and other critical parameters during the meeting and I'm fairly sure that Mr. Mondonico knows your size and measurements as you walk towards him - the tape measure is pretty much for show. He has that much experience.
I've ordered a Torelli 20th Annv. frame that will be built out of Columbus EL-OS tubing, which Columbus doesn't actually make anymore, but apparently Mr. Mondonico has a special relationship with Columbus and they'll draw tubing to his specifications.
The frame should arrive sometime this Spring.
All of his steel frames exude quality and a level of craftmanship really unparalleled in today's lugless tig-welded market.
I would say that if the frame fits; get it.
|Bicyclist (former Bicycle Guide) said "best ever"||Duke249|
Jan 16, 2002 5:36 PM
|I recall the very last issue of Bicyclist (Bicycle Guide) rating the Nitro Express with EL-OS as the best bicycle frameset ever ridden by that particular tester. They have extremely good reputations. Makes you wonder why you don't see more of them...|| |