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I can't stand these new Headsets!(4 posts)

I can't stand these new Headsets!Ireland
Jan 11, 2002 4:08 PM
I bought a bike with an A-head style stem/fork, whatever. I'm trying to lower the bars to match my other bike with the traditional quill style stem, but I can't do it! The stem is a -17 rise(parallel with top tube), and all the spacers are on top, but I still need it 2cm's lower. I havent tried it, but I think flipping the stem will actually raise it. What do I do? Does anybody make a stem that actually angles down as it extends to the bars? I would rather not use one of the "Look style" adjustable stems. Please help.
Something doesn't add upKerry Irons
Jan 11, 2002 4:58 PM
You have a stem that is essentially parallel to the top tube, and that stem is sitting on top of the headset. And this arrangement is 2 cm higher than your setup with a conventional stem on your other bike? Is your frame too big? If not, you must have your conventional stem pushed all the way down into the frame, suggesting that both of your frames are too big. Please clarify.
re: I can't stand these new Headsets!Rui
Jan 12, 2002 12:13 PM
many brands like Easton or ITM produce stems with other angles. so you can raise the handlebar with no problem. usually 3 or 4 spacers (with 5mm) will do the job.
if you need much more or much less than that, maybe your frame doesn't fit you.
wrong head tube length???C-40
Jan 12, 2002 7:25 PM
You must have purchased a frame with a significantly longer head tube. Threadless stems with a -17 (or 73)degree angle can be placed lower than most any quill stem, and the stack height on the headset is also lower.

Some builders have started to lengthen the head tubes on their frames because most people have the opposite problem. Even with an 80 degree stem many people resort to 2cm or more of steering tube spacers to get the bars high enough.

This is why I tell people to measure the head tube length of any frame. Head tube length is a true indicator of a frames vertical size. You may have purchased a frame that is (vertically) larger than you realized.