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Saddle designBrian C.
Jan 4, 2002 6:29 AM
A fellow on the General board spoke of some "plumbing" issues yesterday and it got me thinking about how bike saddles are designed.
Why do saddles have that long nose at the front?
What purpose does this serve? Support? Aerodynamics?
Has anyone designed a saddle that's truncated in the front, split in two down the middle and adjustable in a way that your seat bones only would rest on the pads?
Just wonderin'.
Yepnee Spoke Wrench
Jan 4, 2002 7:22 AM
It's called the "Easy Seat."

I had a couple of customers tell me how wonderful they were and how most bike seats are modeled after cavalry saddles, so I got a couple into the shop. Looked at those turkeys hanging on the wall for over a year. I'd install one on a bike for people and let them try it in the parking lot. NOBODY who test rode one liked it. I finally sold them (at a greatly reduced price) to a couple of people who didn't test ride them.
What was the problem with them?Brian C.
Jan 4, 2002 7:43 AM
Not comfortable?
Not stylish?
Or did they fly against the orthodoxy?
What was the problem with them?nee Spoke Wrench
Jan 4, 2002 1:21 PM
Well, you have to assume that people who gave the saddle a test ride would have been willing to buy one if they thought it was significantly better in some way. I doubt style or orthodoxy was the determining factor.

I think that people who use a more athletic riding position feel like they have to push back with their arms too much to keep from sliding off the front of the Easy Seat.
forgot to answer this questiondzrider
Jan 4, 2002 2:36 PM
I only found it comfortable sitting very upright with my hands resting lightly on the top of the bars, which was not how my road bike was fit. When I leaned forward at all, I felt my hips rocking and also found it very hard to do anything other than spin lightly without standing up. Louise, however, loved it.
an old sweetheart had one and loved itdzrider
Jan 4, 2002 8:14 AM
She never went more than 15 miles and spent most of her time sitting up and spinning the 42x24 that was her easiest gear.

Curiously, these saddles were featured in a motivational film that focused on the "paradigm shift". The EZ seat inventor was presented as a genius who thought outside the box and was destined for great fame and fortune. The Swiss watch companies were presented as perfect examples of conventional thinkers who were doomed by their failure to adapt to quartz technology. All the non-cyclists at the seminar laughed at me when I offered to trade EZ seats for a Movado.
I saw that film also and after his bike saddle/seat discusssion,bikedodger
Jan 4, 2002 9:39 AM
I thought that he was clueless and was trying to fix a problem that did not exist. Numerous "out side the box" saddles have been invented in the last hundred or so years and none have proven to work better than the traditional saddle. It's a saddle not a seat because you straddle a bike just as you do a horse.

Mike
Just found out about Koobi saddles.nigel
Jan 9, 2002 8:51 AM
I was curious about this as well, and a couple of people on the General board mentioned that they had Koobi saddles. I hadn't heard of them, so I did a search. Koobi.com's their home page. They design a range of saddles from generic to high-end, racing-style saddles which have a long cutout which starts at the front and goes back about 15cm, varying in width slightly as it travels rearward, and ends up with a recessed area which extends to the back of the saddle.

I'm looking to try out one of these saddles myself very soon. Here's the link to one of their racing saddles:
http://www.koobi.com/koobi/showdetl.cfm?&DID=6&Product_ID=10&CATID=3

Nige