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Deda Newton(12 posts)

Deda Newtonmpm32
Jan 2, 2002 10:16 AM
I know this has probably been discussed before but, I couldn't get the forum search to work. Found a great deal on a Deda Newton OS Stem and Bar. Before I buy them, I'd like to get some reviews from people that own them.

Specifically;

1. Stiffness (My new fork will have a carbon steerer)
2. Durability
3. This faceplate/bolt stripping issue that some have told me about.
4. If this isn't a good choice please recommend another bar/stem combo (threadless)

I am not necessarily looking for the lightest. I am looking for a bar stem combo that is pretty light while being strong and stiff. I was interested in the newton bar because I have small hands and I liked that the bar design allowed a closer grip to the brakes. I also liked the claim of a larger clamp area increasing stiffness.

Any other suggestions?
DON'T DO IT....patrick
Jan 2, 2002 5:26 PM
Don't have a near death experience of having the faceplate actuallly break off while riding. Have a handfull of handlebars with no bike attached... Deda Newton stems S@#K.
re: Deda Newtonwaynebiker
Jan 2, 2002 5:34 PM
If you want a stiff and light stem, go with the thomson road stem. worked for me I thougth about the Newton, but went with the thomson. It is cheaper too!!!!!
my 2 cents
dave
re: Deda Newtonwaynebiker
Jan 2, 2002 5:36 PM
One more thing
You can still use the newton bar with a normal stem clamp diameter. I use the Deda 215 bar with the thomson stem.
re: Deda Newton2cents
Jan 4, 2002 7:45 AM
Your comments about the Newton stem are total shite! The reason the faceplates were cracking was b/c the edges around the machined hole were not rounded and caused a large stress riser. A poor mistake that was corrected. It is a good stem.
re: Deda NewtonNessism
Jan 3, 2002 12:37 PM
As long as you get the updated version with the thicker faceplate you should be OK. I'm not sure how to tell them apart however. Also, some people have talked about different bolts. Do your research before you buy.
It would probably be safer....KurtVF
Jan 3, 2002 3:10 PM
to simply go with another brand. 3TTT makes a lightweight bar stem combo in the 31.6 mm size. Why buy somthing from someone who obviously makes a bad/dangerous product????
Ponder Thisgrzy
Jan 7, 2002 2:31 PM
Ask yourself why you can get such a "good deal" on this product while the alternatives cost more. I don't think it's worth messing with the Deda stuff (they had a recall). What are you really saving - a little money. Light and strong would favor things like the Ritchey WCS stem and either the Easton or Kestrel CF bar. Not the cheapest combo but certainly one of the lightest and most durable. The bar and stem will weigh in at an honest 325 g. and set you back about $250 - not cheap, but who pays retail? I currently run the Deda 215 bar and can't wait to replace it, but the top bend does get you closer to the levers than some of the other offerings. Getting trapped in the oversized bar racket limits your choices - yes it's stiffer from an engineering standpoint, but CF blows aluminum away on material properties.
That's not really fair...TJeanloz
Jan 8, 2002 12:07 PM
The Deda Newton was not recalled. They voluntarily offered replacement faceplates after some of them cracked- which Deda maintains was the fault of ham-fisted mechanics who didn't read the directions.

I think it's a POS, but it was not recalled (yet).
Fair 'Nuffgrzy
Jan 8, 2002 5:05 PM
Well, it would've been recalled, but that's speculative. Could've been that their voulntary free replacement was a preventative measure. Ultiamtely it's just a bunch of symantics - if the product was any good they would've stuck by it.

I'm starting to feel very insecure since I NEVER recieved any instructions on any stem that I've ever bought from other manufacturers. How do I know if I've installed it correctly? Fact of the matter is if it's that fragile then it's not a good product. Most people don't own, let alone use, a torque wrench for their BB and crank installation. Then realize that the torque requirement for a stem is usually off the bottom of the scale on a 3/8" wrench. Somehow I've never got around to buying a 1/4" torque wrench for doing stem installs. All the mechnics can't be ham-fisted.

I agree that the Newton is a total POS and why anyone would buy one knowing this is beyond me.
Fair 'Nuffkoala
Jan 9, 2002 11:00 AM
My friend thinks it should be recalled and he has the scars to show as proof.
Owiegrzy
Jan 9, 2002 1:51 PM
Sorry to hear that your friend experienced a failure. I have enough trouble avoiding wrecks without equipment failures.