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look carbon forks vs. colnago force(18 posts)

look carbon forks vs. colnago forcenat_ct1
Dec 30, 2001 5:28 AM
has anyone ridden both look carbon forks and colnago force forks?? so they can tell me which they prefer..prefer opinion not based on cost.
re: look carbon forks vs. colnago forceBernie
Dec 30, 2001 6:31 AM
Yeah dude, the Colnago fork is way better. Just imagine all your friends checking you out riding down the road on that Colnago fork with it's wicked COOL PAINT JOB! When buying a fork, you first need to consider the PAINT JOB! And as we all know, them friggin PAINT JOBS on them colnago forks really kicks some ass! Enjoy your paint job! Look forks, alpha q, ouzo pro, just don't have that style offered by Colnago. You cannot put a price on a work of art such as offered by them Colnago artists.
HonestlyBernie
Dec 30, 2001 6:59 AM
I've got around 25 friends who have ridden both Colnago and Looks forks. In conclusion, my friend Thomas sums it up best saying "There must be some magical ingredient in the paint they apply to Colnago forks that makes them handle magnificently".
Ya, but...Geof
Dec 30, 2001 2:59 PM
Nude Carbon fibre is SOOO SEEXXYY (read Fat Bastard)....

I like me Look...
Colnago forks are "nude carbon"...C-40
Dec 30, 2001 4:08 PM
With the exception of the C-40 Geo paint scheme, Colnago carbon forks aren't painted. All come with glossy clearcoat over the Colnago decals, just like LOOK and most others.
Did I say paint? Oh!!!!!! I meant decals...Sorry for the mix upBernie
Dec 30, 2001 6:36 PM
very close to your requestCT1
Jan 2, 2002 8:22 PM
I've ridden both a Colnago Star fork and the LOOK HSC2 fork for over 1K miles each.

The Star fork was VERY-VERY stiff and harsh feeling. Didn't like it at all!!! :-(

My HSC2 is REAL nice feeling. Stiff enough for me and plenty light. Much lighter than the bogus weight that Ernesto claims. Oh, I'm 148#. My brother who weighs 180# also liked the HSC2 quite a bit.

I've heard that the Star is the stiffest carbon fork that Colnago makes.

YMMV
JohnG
actuallyColnago FE
Jan 2, 2002 12:04 PM
the Colnago carbon Forks aren't usually painted from what I'ver seen.
re: look carbon forks vs. colnago forceTricone
Dec 30, 2001 9:58 PM
I haven't ridden the Colnago Force, but I ordered my CT-1 with this fork. I have ridden a Look HSC on a previous bike, and was not happy with it. Stiffness was not one of its attributes. The bike would shimmy during high speed descents and hard cornering until the fork was replaced with an AME AlphaQ.
Although I do believe some Colnago forks have painted crownsBernie
Dec 31, 2001 4:39 AM
The all carbon one which runs around 700 dollors may be "naked" as you refer.
re: look carbon forks vs. colnago forceSharky
Dec 31, 2001 6:28 AM
I have only tried the Look HSC2 and 3. The HSC2 is very wimpy, I would never use it again. The 3 is much better, a lot stiffer and gives more precise feel.
re: look carbon forks vs. colnago forceCT1
Jan 2, 2002 8:25 PM
very close to your request

I've ridden both a Colnago Star fork and the LOOK HSC2 fork for over 1K miles each.

The Star fork was VERY-VERY stiff and harsh feeling. Didn't like it at all!!! :-(

My HSC2 is REAL nice feeling. Stiff enough for me and plenty light. Much lighter than the bogus weight that Ernesto claims. Oh, I'm 148#. My brother who weighs 180# also liked the HSC2 quite a bit.

I've heard that the Star is the stiffest carbon fork that Colnago makes.

YMMV
JohnG
CT1, have you tried HCS1 before ...jkh
Jan 2, 2002 9:44 PM
Hi CT1,

Just wonder how the HCS1 fork is, as Supergo has it on sale for $179.00. I weight just under 150#.

Jonathan
never tried that one.............. nmCT1
Jan 3, 2002 8:18 PM
re: Colnago StarTony
Jan 3, 2002 6:58 AM
Dear CT1:

I am planning on switching a steel Precisa fork on my Master Ti to a carbon one over the winter, and am having difficulty understanding the descriptions of carbon fork stiffness.

When you say the Star was too stiff and the HSC2 had a nicer ride, how would you compare these two to a steel fork? Intuitively, I would expect all carbon forks, including the Star, to be less stiff than steel. Isn't that (and the weight reduction) the reason people switch to carbon?
Carbon Less stiff than steel?Len J
Jan 3, 2002 7:32 AM
This is not my experience. Because carbon fiber is constructed using fibers & because the strength of the mesh is dictated by the direction of the fibers (stronger laterally along the fiber than across it), and because the designer/manufacturer can align thes fibers in exactly the direction that they want, they can be designed to be incredibly stiff, much stiffer than steel.

I have both a steel framed bike W a carbon fork & a carbon bike with a carbon fork. The Carbon bike is much stiffer laterally from the BB through the chainstays than the steel is, yet they are both smooth riding & compiant. the reason is that the Carbon was designed to be compliant in one direction & stiff in the other by the direction the fibers were layed up in.

Len
Carbon Less stiff than steel?koala
Jan 3, 2002 7:27 PM
I would think it depends how its made. The steel fork on my old masterlight was in a 1 inch version stiffer than my current reynolds 11/8. That particular steel fork was one of the stiffest in Damon Rinards fork deflection test. The ride of course is much better with the carbon fork. I think carbons big advantage is it can be made to be stiff laterally and yet compliant from a ride perspective because of the directionality that can be designed in to the weave.
Look HSC2 vs. Colnago Starpmf1
Jan 3, 2002 12:03 PM
I've got a Look HSC2 on a LS Ultimate and a Colnago Star on a C-40.

The Star is a very stiff fork. It corners very well and is a bit harsh, but not excessively. The HSC2 is a little less stiff (although not a noodle by any means) and possesses a more comfortable ride. For me, its a toss up of a tiny bit more comfort vs. a tiny bit better handling. The bikes they are on balance that out a bit. The C-40 rides nicely with a stiff fork where the Ultimate benefits from a more comfortable fork to offset frame stiffness. The Look HSC3 more closely resembles a Star fork with its more beefed up blades and supposed better cornering. Probably a tad less comfortable too.

Both weigh around 350 grams, have carbon steerers and are NOT painted. The Star may only come in a 1'' size while the Look will come in both 1'' and 1-1/8'' sizes (Colnago does not make a bike with a 1-1/8'' head tube). I'd guess the Force fork is similar, but it weighs more due to the steel steering tube.

The Look models can be had for $350, while the Star lists for a staggering $700. While the Force is cheaper, its still more than $350. No comparison here. If I were you, I'd consider a Look HSC or a Reynolds Ouza Pro. Both will compare favorably to the Colnago fork, but cost a lot less.