|Mavic Reflex Clinchers ???||flybyvine|
Nov 28, 2001 10:31 PM
|I know Mavic make a Reflex tubular but a few months back when looking for a replacement to an Open Pro CD Ceramic that went curly on me, the LBS offered me an older Mavic Reflex Clincher in CD Ceramic on a deal.
It is very similar to the Open Pro CD Ceramic just a little bit boxier.
Anyone know when this guy was made & why they stopped ?
They are commuting wheels so I wanted the ceramic but was not too fussed otherwise.
Nov 29, 2001 6:01 AM
|These are the precursor to Open Pros. They came after Open 4CD. I'd guess they quit making them 4-5 years ago probably because Mavic needed a "new" rim for marketing purposes. Basically, they are very similar to the Open Pro rim. I have a set of wheels where one is OP and the other is Reflex. I can barely tell the difference visually and not at all when I ride them. |
The wheels I have do not have ceramic coating. Its supposed to provide better stopping in the rain. Its a bit heavier, more expensive and wearing on brake pads. I'd go for it if you're looking for a ceramic OP and you get a deal on the rim.
Nov 29, 2001 8:39 AM
|The Reflex rim was the standard clincher rim from Mavic for a few years- until about 1997. The Open Pro that replaced it uses a different alloy; 'Maxtal' in the rim construction. According to Mavic's hype machine, this made the Open Pro 30% stronger than the old Reflex. Anecdotal evidence also suggests that the OP is a bit stronger than the Reflex in general.
However, you're discussing a Ceramic rim, which is considerably stronger than the standard-issue in the first place. I think that this older rim is stronger than the current Maxtal Open Pro rim- but not quite as strong as an Open Pro CD. This rim should give you years of good use.
|re: Mavic Reflex Clinchers ???||tubs|
Nov 29, 2001 9:29 AM
|I used these rims for a couple of years for racing and training and they gave great service. They are a little lighter than open pro, and not quite so strong. I found that they develop a slight wave/buckle when pumped up to over 100 psi, which straightens when you let the pressure out again. Opens don,t. If you ride in wet conditions, or need to wash your bike a lot as we do here in UK, it may be useful to know that the spoke nipple seats are waterproof and dont allow water into the rim cavity. They also dont let it out if it does find its way in! Water usually finds its way in round the valve stem. I have seen rims 25% full! Put an o ring under the valve stem nut to prevent this. Tip works for open pro too.|
|re: Mavic Reflex Clinchers ???||DaveG|
Nov 29, 2001 9:49 AM
|I had a set built up after my Open4CD's got destroyed by hitting a drainage grate at 25mph (not recommended). After about 5K miles the rear rim developed cracks at several of the eyelet holes. Replaced it with an OpenPro. Front rim still is use. I weigh 180. These were anodized but not ceramic.|
|re: Mavic Reflex Clinchers ???||flybyvine|
Nov 29, 2001 11:03 PM
|Thanks, that explains a few things.
I have had it on for a few weeks and am a bit worried about it turning crispy on me as well (spoke tension is not perfect). I have another lead on a wheel builder and am also about to have a go at my first wheel (but will start with a front not a C10 rear !!).