|wheelset weights||R. Ortega|
Nov 11, 2001 6:46 AM
|I've been curious about this for a while....do bike manufacturers include the weight of the skewers when publishing the weight of their pre-built (Nucleons, Ksyriums, et al) wheelsets? I get the feeling that some do and others don't. Any info on this would be great.|
|re: wheelset weights||jdp|
Nov 11, 2001 7:01 AM
|I know that the advertised weight of the K's DO NOT include the skewers. Most companies (that I've seen anyway) do not include the skewers weight in the specs, kinda sneaky IMO.|
Nov 11, 2001 8:30 AM
|http://www.tc-homes.com/bike/features/wheels/cover.htm take a lok at this.|
|From what I have heard and read....||RS|
Nov 11, 2001 10:18 AM
|the K's and other "boutique" wheels AND hubs do not include skewers in their weights. This may be deception but most don't come with skewers so how can they quote a weight on them? I have read that Campy hubs include the skewer weight and I think they are sold with the skewers. When I found this out I realized that Campy hubs are not much heavier than most hight "light" hubs. For example, Damon Rinard's weight page (http://www.geocities.com/kwanseng/weight.html) lists Chris King rear cassette hub at 264 grams and Campy Record (2000) rear cassette hub at 248 grams and the Chorus at 260 grams still lighter than a King! The American Classic and Hugi 240's were lighter than Campy at 235 grams and 237 grams respectively. I think Campy might be doing themselves a disservice by listing the weight with the skewer.|
|So does Shimano||Dirk|
Nov 13, 2001 9:34 AM
|Shimano too advertises their hub weights including the skewers.|
|most don't come with skewers....||???|
Nov 13, 2001 9:46 AM
|What have you been smokin'? It's the aftermarket non-Shimano non-Campagnolo hubs, King and the like, that don't come with skewers. Most so-called boutique wheels DO come with skewers.|
Nov 12, 2001 6:10 PM
|I think more than skewers are missing from the quoted weights quite often. My shop has never seen a pair of Ksyriums under 1750 gms. (tub) or 1810 (clinch). This reminds me of the days when a GL280 or GL330 rim was the weight of the rim only, and not the eyelets. I asked a rep once if you could get the rim w/o eyelets, and he said 'of course not, you can't build a wheels that way'. Also cronic offenders, Hed disc, claimed 1100 gms, I have one here to sell weighing 1947 gm. and Lew Sydney claimed 1190, actual 1380, not huge, but for $2800 you expect to get what was advertised.
I say build your own, expect individual part weigh variance by +-5% or so and you will be better off in the end..
|LEW, et. al.||TJeanloz|
Nov 14, 2001 7:50 AM
|I'm rarely one to support companies in their efforts to lie about weight, but I did have a pair of Lew Sydneys (Serial #6) in the shop that weighed 1150g. They were absolutely amazing. And amazingly expensive. Also, they had to change hub manufacturers a few times, so the actual wheel was not the wheel spec'd in ads and their own literature.
I have also seen Ksyriums under 1750g, though only one pair out of about 30 sold...
|Plus, they usually lie...||Jack S|
Nov 14, 2001 7:55 AM
|and do not consider the typical variances. I bet they get the weight from the lightest wheels coming off the line. Sometimes you will see "targeted" weight noted.|| |