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Installing a threadless fork and headset(12 posts)

Installing a threadless fork and headsetbear
Nov 5, 2001 7:11 PM
is a 1" threadless orbit headset...do I need a press? I dont see why? what am I missing?
I use a block of wood and a hammer. No problems (nm)Dave Hickey
Nov 6, 2001 3:53 AM
re: Installing a threadless fork and headsetAkirasho
Nov 6, 2001 6:29 AM
http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQindex.shtml#headset

Yes, you can use less "sophistocated" methods... as long as you understand the risks (even a Park press can skew a headset and cause ovalization of the headtube if not used properly).

An improperly installed headset could ruin your entire frame. Some alloy headsets are a bit delicate when it comes to installation (though durable once installed). If you're unsure of your method... I'd leave it for the shop (no dissrespect to Mr. Hickey). They'd probably charge a minimal fee (if all they have to do is press one in) and it only takes a few minutes.

We abide.

Remain In Light.
re: Installing a threadless fork and headsetRusty Coggs
Nov 6, 2001 6:45 AM
Shops are no gurantee of getting it done right.Although, if they screw up, they are liable. I had a frame and fork ruined by a shop hack installing a headset. Since then I have used a hammer and block of wood,many times, no problems.
Threadless fork and headset infoCalvin Jones-Park Tool
Nov 6, 2001 6:52 AM
For most headset designs, the cups are pressed tight...but not too tightly, into the frame. For more see
http://www.parktool.com/repair_help/FAQhdset.shtml
re: Installing a threadless fork and headsetRaiderMike
Nov 6, 2001 9:29 AM
I recently had to install a headset on my mountain bike. I went to the local hardware store and bought 2 washers that fit in the cups, and a long bolt, and a nut that fit it. Set the cups in the frame, fit the washers in the cups thread the bolt through, thread the nut, and get 2 sockets, and ratchets that will fit, and tighten the bolt. Do it slowly so you can make sure it is going in straight, and tighten it until it bottoms out. It turned out perfect, and the tool cost about a buck, and a half.
re: Installing a threadless fork and headsetTheMaxx
Nov 6, 2001 10:07 AM
That's a great idea. That's all a headset press is anyway. As long as you are careful, you should have no problems with something like that. The next time you are installing your Chris King headset, think if you really want a hammer anywhere near it.
re: Installing a threadless fork and headsetbear
Nov 6, 2001 4:52 PM
thanks,,i going withthe hammer,,hey I want to be able to say to myself I did it my way,,,thanks guys
Yikesgrzy
Nov 6, 2001 5:05 PM
Remember, if it won't go in, don't force it - use a bigger hammer. This wouldn't be the very same hammer you use for wheel truing and deraileur adjustments would it?

Personally, I think you're making a mistake. I would never dream of installing a decent HS into a decent frame with a hammer and expect it to be true and square. What on earth are you saving? At the very least you should go with the el cheapo threaded rod, nuts, and washers.

Live and learn.
No YikesKerry Irons
Nov 6, 2001 6:03 PM
I would guess that I have installed in XS of 20 headsets with a block of wood and a hammer, and never had a problem. Mind you, I don't just hammer away. I constantly check for alignment as the cups start to "set" and then knock them out if they are going crooked. It's not a skill-free activity, but it can easily be done in a quality way with little risk to frame or HS. I've done steel, aluminum, and polymer head sets in steel, aluminum, and Ti frames.
Philosophygrzy
Nov 7, 2001 11:02 AM
Personally, I don't see why it's worth taking a risk when there's a better way to do it. I guess it's the cost/time. Probably the thing that gets me is that I've frequently had to re-install cups that have not been parallel to each other. The Park tool can make this pretty fool-proof, but most nome mechanics can't afford such a specialized and expensive tool. My buddy has one and between the two of us we have just about everything one would need and a bunch of stuff you don't need ;-) I really can't see installing a Chris King HS in a custom ti frame with a hammer and a block of wood. I also get worried advising people to carefully use a hammer when most don't even have the sense of feel to torque bolts correctly w/out a torque wrench. It's not too hard to deform a HS cup - I've done it. A LBS can do it right for not much $$$.
Philosophybear
Nov 10, 2001 4:39 PM
well, everything work out super. Not as hard as i had plan. I build my own press with stuff I had laying around and no problemas,,guy thanks my next project is to cut the fork and the carbon seatpost, but that another posting,,,thanxs again guys