|Anybody built wheels using ZIPP rims?||JS|
Nov 2, 2001 12:55 PM
|I'm in the process of building some wheels with ZIPP 360 tubular rims and HUGI 240 hubs and Revo spokes and was wondering if anybody knows of any weirdness or precautions I should take. I've built quite a few wheels but nothing like these deep section carbon rims. Also,I was looking into using Sapim cx-ray spokes but the only pricing I found was at $2.50 a spoke , YIKES, is that right?|
Nov 2, 2001 1:55 PM
|Be careful not to lose any nipples in the rim, they're a bitch to get out.
That pricing for Sapim spokes seems high- but I have no idea. Yet, you've already spent a fortune on hubs and rims, what's another $150 for spokes?
|Have you heard what you've just said Tjeanloz ????||Cyclorocket|
Nov 2, 2001 2:06 PM
|"what's another $150 for spokes" Please use your brain !
150$ I could get a BIG microwave with this. But you just give me 60 small bented metal pieces.
Com'on it's not becuz you spend $ in carbon fibre rims and a ultra-performant hubset that you need to put money down the drain for bented metal blades !
Even if I were rich I wouldn't buy just becuz of the case.
|It's called IRONY and some people don't get it. (nm)||grzy|
Nov 2, 2001 2:20 PM
|Yes, I heard...||TJeanloz|
Nov 2, 2001 2:21 PM
|If I were building an awesome set of wheels, I'd spent $150 on spokes. If they were cool enough, I'd probably spend $500 on spokes.
When in doubt, always spend more, it's doing your part to help avert a worldwide recession...
Nov 2, 2001 2:29 PM
|Ok go to bed|
|Wouldn't call it a fortune.||JS|
Nov 2, 2001 3:11 PM
|Got a deal on the rims and as for the hubs.........well it pays to have friends in the industry. Can't justify the extra cash on the Sapims for a legligible weight loss and aero advantage over Revo's. Should be into these for less than a pair of Ksyriums go for. For a race wheel it would be hard to stomach folding a $1200.00(LEWS, Bora's, 2002 Zipp's) set of wheels in a crash. Thanks for the caveat though.|
|It's like Daytona on a C-40...||TJeanloz|
Nov 4, 2001 9:15 AM
|My feeling on the subject is that if you're going to build yourself an awesome set of wheels, build yourself an awesome set of wheels. When it comes to the best, there's no room for compromise. Granted, the Revolution is a great spoke- a little hard to work with, but they do the job pretty well. Is it worth it to spend more? Of course it is...
Anyhow, your 'freinds in the industry' are probably cutting you a deal on the Revo's- seeing how DT and Hugi are the same company...so why ask in the 1st place?
|Whoa, why the bitterness?||JS|
Nov 4, 2001 12:46 PM
|Maybe a little displaced (ex-bike shop owner) anger towards someone NOT paying full price at the LBS? Got a couple pairs of these hubs from a recently sold bike company who spec's them on their top line MTB. A quick switch of the end cap and it's a road hub, pretty clever design really. Life is full of compromise, in this case it's a cost per gain equation in my head that says those spokes (Sapim cx-rays) do not show enough of a gain if any to justify the over 3-times higher price of comparable DT or Wheelsmith offerings. So, seeing as I don't have the disposable income that you assume I have, cost is an issue. Also, I never said anything about having to have " the best".|
|I'm not bitter,||TJeanloz|
Nov 5, 2001 6:49 AM
|I'm not bitter, I promise. Just a perfectionist.|
|re: Anybody built wheels using ZIPP rims?||burdiman|
Nov 3, 2001 8:39 AM
|You can order the spokes from www.sdeals.com (UK) for
$1.62 ea. I have ordered from them before and they are
nice to deal with and shipping is inexpensive and quick.
|re: Anybody built wheels using ZIPP rims?||Tommasini|
Nov 5, 2001 8:30 PM
|Yes I have - 16 front and rear. I am a perfectionist with getting my side to side and up down true but on these carbon tubular rims I had to settle for a wee bit less than perfect - still built up reasonably nice. I was surprised that I could move them side to side and up/down (with changes in spoke tension) as much as I did - I figured they'd be more "solid". For spoke decisions, I used Wheelsmith 15 gauge bladed in the front and non-drive rear - they weigh almost the same (for 16 of them) as Revolutions - about the same price as revolutions too (Excel Sports). The drive rear is 14 gauge DT bladed for added strength. Thousands of miles (decent roads only) and never had to retrue or be of any concern.|
|re: Anybody built wheels using ZIPP rims?||Cyclorocket|
Nov 9, 2001 6:40 AM
output ? (more then ave racers or less)
Do you torture them in sprints (very powerfull legs) ?
How much tension in spokes (fr and rear) ?
You really think the carbon rim is more "smooth" then traditionnal alloy rims.