|Best Cables .....||Offthefront|
Nov 2, 2001 7:33 AM
|I have 98 4000 C'Dale with Full DA and still have the original cables ...But its Time ...What would be the best way to go ? thanks....Mike|
|Tell me this is a joke?||TJeanloz|
Nov 2, 2001 8:13 AM
|As far as Shimano is concerned, a cable is a cable is a cable. No need for a fancy Gore-Tex one or anything unless you are a bike abuser.
Having said that, it occurs to me that there are very minor differences. Get a braided cable instead of the other kind. It costs like 50cents more. I'm not even sure you can get the crappy ones aftermarket.
|Disagree about braided||nee Spoke Wrench|
Nov 2, 2001 12:10 PM
|I didn't think you were old enough to remember braided cables, and I think they are a different thing than what you are talking about.
braided cables don't fray as readily as common cables, but they stretch too much. I found that out when I tried to use braided brake cables, as specified by Travel Agent, on the back of a tandem. Frankly, I can't imagine a cable that stretchy working on an indexed gear system either.
For most applications, even on my son's mountain bikes, I use the generic slick galvanized cables from QBC. I can replace them a bunch of times for the cost of a Ride-On set.
|You might be right...||TJeanloz|
Nov 2, 2001 12:43 PM
|I thought all the QBP slick cables were braided and then machined to smoothness- there's a nice diagram on the package, but I can't remember it exactly.|
|I think you're going too far||Cyclorocket|
Nov 2, 2001 8:30 AM
|Cables are cables like he mention|
Nov 2, 2001 8:50 AM
|As Little as I do know. There is a Difference ...One is Stainless Verses Steel ...Just wondering if the Gore Tex ect are worth the exra bucks ...|
|Mathematics...why not SHAVING your ASS : you save 1 BIG sec||Cyclorocket|
Nov 2, 2001 9:03 AM
|Stainless VS Gore-Tex
gore-tex will make you save 50g MAX
50g out of 75900g (150lbs rider + 17lbs bike)
It will make you climb a BIG 0.00066 FASTER
That is 1 BIG sec out of a 5miles HILL @ 10mph
why ot shaving your ass you could save another 1 sec
|Idiot, Gore-tex cables are sealed||JS|
Nov 2, 2001 3:28 PM
|as well as use a Gore-tex lining( fancy stranded teflon ) for supposedly better and longer lasting quality shifting, they're not about weight.|
|Idiot, Gore-tex cables are sealed||Cyclorocket|
Nov 2, 2001 3:41 PM
|I tries too explain the stupidity of changing cable becuz you just like to say "I got gore-Tex cables"
I train in rain, everybody does in the team.
I never heard eny problems with stainless ones.
And they do save weight...
Nov 2, 2001 9:05 AM
|GoreTex cables, like the RideOn's, are definitely worth the extra money if you ride off-road (mtb or 'cross), because the standard cables get gunked up rather quickly, and shifting performance degrades.
However, I can't imagine this ever happening on a road bike, so save your money and upgrade something a little more exciting than cables :)
|Gore Ride-On Cables are not worth the money||pmf1|
Nov 2, 2001 9:10 AM
|I tried them once. Got a good deal on them. The idea is kind of cool, but they're a pain to install and manipulate when you adjust your brakes or drive system. Worse still, mine got clogged with some dirt (this is on a road bike) and shifting detriorated rapidly. And this is after about 12 months of use. I don't think they ever, even when brand new, shifted any better than the cables that cost $2.50 each. Another bike gizmo that isn't worth it.|
|Yes and No||grzy|
Nov 2, 2001 4:42 PM
|They're pretty bomber on an MTB in real crappy race conditions. You can go for quite a while and do minimal maintenance, but once the coating starts to wear of the cables you're done. Stuff gets all jammed inside the housing. I've got a small box full of salvaged Ride-On stuff. It's sort of a cost benifit thing: yes they're more robust, but they cost lots more. With SS cables you jusst replace stuff more often, but pay less $$$. Never really seen the need to go to this extreme on a road bike - even in crappy WX. I'll pick up Ride-On or Avid cable kits when I can get a deal on them, but mostly I'm back to the traditional setup.|
|Gore Ride-On Cables are not worth the money||TheMaxx|
Nov 6, 2001 4:01 PM
|I definitely noticed a shifting difference with Gore. I also got them for a deal though, and normally I would spend that cash on something more worthwhile.
In my opinion, they do make a shifting difference, but they are expensive and difficult to install. You shouldn't touch the cable with your fingers at all, and you need to make sure you get NO dirt on the cable at all or it ruins them. They also stretch more than regular cables.
Using them on your brakes is completely pointless. The only difference you will notice is the money missing from your pocket.
|Transfil Flying Snakes||matt|
Nov 2, 2001 9:04 PM
|You can get them at Totalcycling.com for about $30 a set. I use the gore cables on my mountain bike, and these are the same deal without the gortex coating on the cable, so they won't jam up when the gortex coating is compromised. They are lighter than campy and shimano, and have a very cool braided carbon coating on the housing. The liner is yellow like the gore cables. Pricy, but you are looking for tips on bike candy, there it is. If you just want cheap replacements, QBP housing with their black teflon coated stainless cables. About twenty bucks out the door.|
|Transfil Flying Snakes||grzy|
Nov 6, 2001 5:10 PM
|Do you find that the black teflon coating comes off fairly quickly? I've gone back to QBP straight SS with the rolled finish. Seems to work as good as anything else and it's cheaper. Now when something starts to gum up I toss it if I can't get it to loosen up right away. |
Know what you mean about the looks - the Avid Flak Jacket housing looks cool also, but it's not really worth the coin.