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upgrade to threadlesscorn_chipz
Oct 19, 2001 5:39 PM
HI- I currently have a threaded headset on my trek 5200 and want to go to threadless. Do I have to change the fork if I want to do this? Is it worth it?
re: upgrade to threadlessAkirasho
Oct 20, 2001 2:12 AM
To go threadless, you'll need a new fork, headset and stem at least.

Whether it's worth it is dependent on what you're trying to accomplish. If nothing is wrong with your current setup then why change it? If you're worried about a supply of threaded components, I've no crystal ball, but there'll probably be adequate replacement parts in the foreseeable future. If it's just something you want to do, then I guess it's worth it to you.

Today, this market is in a state of flux... we've got several factors to consider... 1" or 1 1/8"... threaded or threadless... traditional or integrated... All, or a combination of the above may factor into your frame's future.

We abide.

Remain In Light.
What do you want to gain?DaveG
Oct 20, 2001 7:51 AM
Unless you need a new fork anyway, this seems like a big expense for little gain. To upgrade you'll need a new headset, stem and fork. That could cost $150-$400+ depending on what you buy. From that you might gain a small decrease in weight. That's it. You won't be any faster. You won't corner any better. That money would be better spent on upgraded wheels, better tires, or a heart rate monitor (training can be an "upgrade" too).
re: upgrade to threadlessgttrek
Oct 20, 2001 12:27 PM
If there is not anything wrong with your headset/fork leave it as is.
Some would consider that a "down"gradeDMoore
Oct 20, 2001 9:14 PM
Threadless headsets are marginally lighter. They enable use of a carbon steer tube - definitely lighter, but there have been some real durability/safety issues with some of them. Threadless stems have no height adjustability. Once you cut that steering tube to length, that's it. The only way to move the stem up after that is to buy a new fork. To the traditionalists among us they just don't look right. Give me a classic Cinelli or polished Ibis Ti (my favorite) any day over a threadless stem. Remember, the threadless headset did NOT appear because it was a functional improvement. It was brought over from the MTB world because it enables the bike company to save money. Rather than stocking forks in different lengths, they could do "one size fits all" and just cut to fit.

Of course, if you're buying the latest and greatest new bike and trying to save every gram, you may not have much choice in the matter. But I can't see any reason whatever to convert a bike from a threaded to a threadless headset.
Still driving on bias-ply's too?JS
Oct 21, 2001 8:12 PM
Threadless is better, trust me.
Can't argue with that logicmickey-mac
Oct 21, 2001 9:04 PM
Anything else we should accept on blind faith because you say it's better? ;-)
Yep, blue is the best color, chocolate is the best cake andJS
Oct 22, 2001 9:14 AM
I'm the coolest guy I ever met! :-) ( Tongue pressed firmly in cheek.)
I'm with DMoore--it's not worth the trouble and costcory
Oct 22, 2001 8:13 AM
Your money, but...you'll never feel the difference, and there are bazillions of good quill stems out there if you need a replacement. Shoot, I've got a dozen in my garage.
Cautiongrzy
Oct 22, 2001 9:03 AM
Depending on the year of your OCLV frameset it may not be easy - word is that the new forks have a larger bottom diameter which means that you'll have trouble with some headsets. If this is not an issue on your setup, then you'll need new fork, headset, and stem and can save up to 1/2 lbs. if you play your cards right and go w/carbon steerer. Handling could be either improved or made worse depending on your fork choice. The Air Rail fork isn't exactly the best game in town. Decide in advance what your objective is and what you're willing to spend - it can get pricey.
CautionTJeanloz
Oct 22, 2001 9:51 AM
Any OCLV that came as a threaded set up could be converted to thread-less. Going the other way would pose a problem for 2001-02 5900's.
re: upgrade to threadlesscorn_chipz
Oct 23, 2001 2:27 AM
Thanks for all the excellent feedback everyone; i'm gonna look around at reviews to see if I can find a lightweight yet stiff threaded stem. Does anybody have recommendations on stems from personal experience?
Ritchey WCSgrzy
Oct 23, 2001 9:07 AM
125 g. for $89 - stiff as a crutch and no problems with bolts stripping. What more could one ask for?
But it's no Hurricane (nm)TJeanloz
Oct 23, 2001 11:12 AM