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Speeding up the bikeFrank
Oct 12, 2001 2:59 AM
This year I bought my first roadbike (Trek 2300). During this year I found out that my favorite ride flat and fast, somewhat like a timetrail. For next year I want to speed up my bike. I'm thinking about a new set of wheels, the question is which wheels are best suited to replace the Rolf Vector Comp that came with the bike??

If have been thinking about Spinergy Rev-x or Mavic Cosmic Carbone. Does anyone know what I should do??
dont...UltegraRacer
Oct 12, 2001 4:09 AM
Dont speed up the bike, the wheels are fine. Speed up yourself, unless u have tons of money to throw out.
dont...Speedy Donderbal
Oct 12, 2001 4:35 AM
I working on my own speed, it is increasing faster than I hoped for. So that's good :-)

But if there is a way to increase the speed even more with an adaptation of the bike (although the budget is limited), that would be better. It's not that I want to speed up the bike at all costs: Cycling is fun and it must continue to be so in the future, regardless of the equipment...
DOnestorl
Oct 12, 2001 8:24 AM
YES! Change your crappy wheels... the new ones will look better and will make you more motivated to train harder and improve yourself. :-).
re: Speeding up the bikeTrekMan
Oct 12, 2001 5:58 AM
Hi Frank, like the other psoters said you don't really need to add new wheels, the Vector Comps should be aero enough. The most areo wheels in the world aren't going to help you if you're legs aren't fast enough :) If you really want to get something for the bike why not try aerobars, they're cheaper than new wheels.

Now on a different note what do you think of your Trek 2300? I too got a Trek 2300 as my first road bike and am always wondering what other people think of them.
re: Speeding up the bikeFrank
Oct 12, 2001 1:53 PM
The Trek 2300 (model 2001) is much better than I expected when I bought it. I made the choice for the Trek after talking to several friends who have years of experience with roadbikes. The frame is very stiff, very good for climbing and very stable at high speeds (downhill). The Vectors are also very stiff, try some 'normal' wheels and you know the difference. Shimano Ultegra makes the finishing touch. Combine those features with the best looking bike available and you have a Trek 2300.
Yup - get aerobars - biggest speed-up for your $. nmmuncher
Oct 12, 2001 6:53 AM
Test-ride those Rev-X before ...cyclinseth
Oct 12, 2001 7:59 AM
dropping the cash. I test rode a pair and found that if I wasn't going flat or down hill, directly into the wind, I was going slower and getting blown all over the road.

I'm trying to ween myself from aero-bars. I LUUUUUUUV THEM! Just don't try riding in a group..

Maybe tubulars, but that requires new wheels.
Test-ride those Rev-X before ...Frank
Oct 12, 2001 3:30 PM
That is what I am afraid for: Very fancy looking wheels which makes riding much more difficult without any gain in speed. My regular training area is very windy (front or side, but somehow never in the back).
re: Speeding up the bikeChen2
Oct 12, 2001 9:54 AM
I've got Cosmic Carbones on my Trek 5500 and I love them, but I doubt that they add more than 1/2 to 3/4 mph to the bike as compared to conventional box rim wheels. In competition 1/2 mph is a lot, but in your case you've already got wheels that are relatively fast. As the other poster said, aero bars will give you more speed for the $. You can probably pick up 1 to 1 1/2 mph with aero bars. Of course physical training to your body will add more speed and will be worth more than new wheels or aero bars.
-Al
re: Speeding up the bikeBig Cat
Oct 12, 2001 11:01 AM
my 2 cents>>> We all like new toys and you can , if only slightly, improve your speed/aerodynamics with better gear. And as Nestor said, new stuff also motivates you and it also eliminates the excuses. I would do the following things, along with riding like a freak.
1. get aero bars (again best bang, and more speed than new rims)
2. Have a local "expert" make sure you are fit correctly on the bike. Aerobars will add some factors, like seat height and seat forward or backward.
3.Surf the web or call around and either buy a coach session or two for tips on pedaling effeciency. All the tech in the world has limited benefit if you are purely mashing, or have dead space somewhere in your pedal stroke. Effeciency , even if you pay a coach, is going to make a bigger difference. Especially if you have been ridng for less than 2-3 years.
Finally, D. (ha-ha) Then you go buy some faster wheels. That will be of minor help,as Rolfs ARE aero and fast. I have those and some Hed aero rims. I use both depending on the course. Rolfs are really responsive in the hills. Heds on flats.
re: Speeding up the bikeFrank
Oct 12, 2001 3:08 PM
New stuff motivates, I agree, my bike is very motivating already. In the Photo Gallery>>bike shots there is a picture of a Trek 2300, if that bike is not motivating than I don't know what is :-)

Areo bars are the next thing on my list, I looking for bars that fit me nicely. I prefer the pads close to the elbows but those bars I have not found yet. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

Coaching is not a problem, my speed has increased enough to keep up with a experienced racers, I ride with them during the weekends and they coach me all the time: bike setup (make the bike fit to me, not the other way around), pedalling techniques (especially uphill), high cadance riding (105-110). But much more must be learned and/or improved, I keep working on that.

And finally the wheels... I don't know what to do with those yet.
re: Speeding up the bikebrider
Oct 18, 2001 2:28 PM
Adding aero bars to a standard road set up is going to preclude a fairly short aero bar, with the pads at almost mid forearm. Unless you're going to change out to a very aggressive forward position, which you'd better get a different frame for, then learn to deal with the pad placement. If you go to a standard aero bar set up on a standard road position, you're going to be way too stretched out, and if you shorten up the cockpit by moving the seat forward or switching to a shorter stem, you're going to screw up the bike's handling.