|Components for bare racing frame - Suggestions||DannyBoy|
Sep 17, 2001 7:52 AM
|I recently had a custom compact built in Columbus Nivacrom with a carbon Columbus Carve fork, Chorus t.out, speedplays and open pro's - long story short It weighs more than I expected for 2 grand. Nice responsive ride tho.
As a second bike I'm having a Reynolds 853 custom build and would like to build it up into a c17.5lb machine, what's the best way to do this without going too mad on the $$$$. The aforementioned 18.5lb 'boat anchor' cost me £2000 =$3200.
Or is there something I can do to lighten up the boat anchor instead and put lower grouped stuff on the new 853????? Idea's would be a help. Seems the likes of giant etc are building pretty light bikes with fairly average bits for not too much money, so it stands to reason I could too!!!!
|re: Components for bare racing frame - Suggestions||Ligon|
Sep 17, 2001 8:20 AM
|Campy record is the way to go as far as drivetrain. For a fork you should look at a reynolds ouzo pro. The blades and steerer tube are carbon fiber(360g with uncut steerer). The dede newton is a reasonably priced bar with weight comparable to carbon fiber bars(205g). The dede magic is a good stem. As far as wheels go I would suggest Campy Nucleon. They are 130g lighter than Mavic Ksyrium and they are $140 bucks cheaper. They are based on record hubs.|
|don't sweat the weight....||C-40|
Sep 17, 2001 1:19 PM
|Most people who are consumed over the weight of their bike have never analyzed how little difference in performance two pounds makes. If your route was entirely uphill, it would improve speed by a little more than 1%. Since most routes include a large percentage of flats and downhills, the net effect of two pounds additional weight is much less than 1%.
Although I currently ride a bike that's around 16lbs, I've ridden just as fast on a 20lb. steel bike. My steel frames never kept me from being the first one to the top of a hill.
If you were really concerned about weight, you shouldn't buy steel in the first place. You should also know that lightweight components are never cheap. Substituting carbon fiber for aluminum or titanium for steel always raises the price. Worry more about getting a good fit and setting your KOP position optimally. Be sure that you're fit enough to ride in a low, aero position. A good set-up can yield a lot more than 1% in improved performance. Also remember that body weight is just as important as frame and component weight. Most riders can shed two pounds from the body a lot easier than two from the bike.
|don't sweat the weight....||DannyBoy|
Sep 18, 2001 1:04 AM
|I bought steel for two reasons. One ride, I gather alu can be a bit harsh on long rides, and because of my strength and weight (fairly lean 180lbs - lift weights too) my frame builder suggested it'd give me the best combo of responsivness, comfort and durability. I have to say being a custom build it fits like a glove! The other being that this is pretty much the only material UK frame builders seem to use (say 8/10 anyway). Think the frame with fork is 1722g=3.7lbs. Would Alu have been much lighter.
You are correct weight isn't everything - assume it's more important on things like wheels?
I just thought it was odd that having had a custom build with pretty good bits on it was so heavy? I have Chorus t.out, ITM millenium bars and stem, Eason EA70 seatpin, Flite titanium trans-am, open pro's???
Not sure on the new bike to really go for it, or not bother and have this as my 'best' bike.
|PLEASE>>>>This always kill me!!!!||nestorl|
Sep 17, 2001 5:25 PM
|$3000!!! to save 3 pounds...??? What about this...keep the heavy bike (21 pounds??),,, give me $100...save the 2900 and I'll tell you howto shed 5 pounds off the fat belly :-)...
- "...How can I shed some weight off my bike..."
- "...Look around your butt cheeks..."
|Body fat of 10%!!!||DannyBoy|
Sep 18, 2001 1:09 AM
|I've already been through the personal weight loss thing, although not super lean I have a body fat of c10%, which I gather is quite good. It took me a year to get from 14% down to 10%! Don't think I can realistically shift any more!!
I get what you're saying, but I have a bit of money to spend, but would rather not overspend if I can avoid it. If light bikes are not really an issue, why are they built and sold and so coveted on this site?
Guess I'll stick with the boat anchor as is, and mebe treat myself to some new wheels for racing and build the other up as a cheaper everyday bike - sound about right?
|Body fat of 10%!!!||jaybird|
Sep 18, 2001 5:52 AM
|18.5 lbs is hardly a boat anchor... Be proud of the custom frame and ride the sh!t out of it...|
Sep 19, 2001 3:28 AM
|Hmm, I didn't think it was heavy, but this site and my cycling club seems to be inundated with falsh basta** who have 16lb'ers. Lucky so and so's. I'm just jeleous, he he he.|
|re: Components for bare racing frame - Suggestions||htb|
Sep 22, 2001 9:40 PM
|3.2k for a custom build, even with chorus, is a good setup. And you're talking about 1lb difference just to get a new bike? How about not riding with water bottles/camelback? That will save you about 2.5 lbs.....
For $3200, you can get a carbon trek that's in the 16/17 lb range- nothing to complain about, since Lance won the TdF on a very similar bike. If you can't hang with Lance's bike, you're wasting your money.
Seriously, do you really think that 18lbs is a boat anchor, especially for a steel frame? You're joking- there are many many cyclists who can certainly kick your fat ass off the pavement that are riding 18lb bikes- that includes some pro riders. I know of a few (non pro) riders who beat the local pack routinely, and they are riding 19-20lb rigs (and in Denver and Boulder, CO, the "local pack" is pretty serious). If you have the cash, go ahead and buy Record and custom wheelsets to get your steel frame down to 17 lbs- it will certainly cost you a bit of cash. But if you're really an ounce pincher, and want to be really cool, go out and buy a new bike.
You can give me the boat anchor, since it's obviously not light enough for you.
Just remember that it's not the bike that makes the rider...
|Fatman's keepin' the boat anchor as is...||DannyBoy|
Sep 27, 2001 12:08 AM