Aug 31, 2001 7:35 AM
|I was wondering how many use some sort of aero ad on, on their road bike for the long flats just for another position? Or do you just lay across the top of the bars on the hoods?|
|re: Aero bars||grzy|
Aug 31, 2001 8:58 AM
|Run a set of Scott RCO's (Race Clip Ons) when the spirit moves me and I'm willing to deal with the weight and sluggish handling, whihc isn't very often. Not only are they benificial on flats, but they're actually advised by the organizers of the Terrible Two (serious climbing) so that you have another position while cranking out 200 miles. Found it to be very good advice.|
|re: Aero bars||Woof the dog|
Sep 1, 2001 8:48 PM
|Yo, you know what I feel....whenever I put clip-on aerobars on, the bike looks funky. I sense there is something wrong with it. Probably its because I am used to the traditional road bike look, plus because I race and aerobars are not allowed this gives me the funky feeling. I donno man. I rode for a while with clip-ons, and finally not too long ago, modified the whole thing by buying cowhorns (syntace stratos) and changing pads, brackets and cutting down excess of my titanium arms that were sticking out from behind the clamps. Now it looks like a true tt bike. The only problem is, whether it is the clip-ons or the whole aerobar thing, there are still those friggin' hills I have to climb. See, in order to be a good racer, you have to simulate the race conditions, therefore, riding 100 miles (for a lowly cat 4 like myself) is something that I don't do too often. See, a part of me hates this sh!t...maybe you already figured it out. Listen to this: In order to be a successful cat 3 racer you gotta ride more miles in order to get good training. There is a big difference between a 45 mile road race and a 75 mile one. Cat 4's do like 60 miles, if I am correct. So, I now have to go out and do at least 40 miles. It now feels like 20 miles two years ago. 20 mile rides can be refreshing, but it is pretty hard to kill my legs. Hell, I'd say you gotta get in two 60 milers in at least twice a week and possibly a century on sunday. That is fun alright, but its really hard to have this much time allotted, especially when you have studying to do, plus weather patterns and extra other stuff. Ahh, how easy was it when I used to be slow. I'd kill myself in just 15 miles and be happier than ever. Okay, back to the aerobar problem. Aerobar/cowhorn set up i have now puts my hands more forward, hindering my ability to climb hills as fast as I used to. Plus, it causes my barrel downtube adjuster on the left to turn when turning bars - cable length problem I'd rather not mess with. Its such a pain to change your bike's setup. More importantly, aerobars get me used to a certain position which can backfire when you change it to the original (yes, I am talking about a saddle being a bit higher and more forward.) Aerobars, any kind, add up 500 - 800 grams (which is what, 1-almost 2 pounds) - definitely an effect in handling characteristics and weight of the bike. You do get faster on the flats. So if you are willing to pay for a higher ride average (something like extra 2 mph) with weight, position and handling, go ahead and put aerobars on. If you race (or rather raced) like me (even occasionally), I'd say stay with normal set-up and improve your technique. There is a reason higher cats don't ride with aerobars while training. Whats the point in aerobars? They do fast rides with sprints and climbing, and they do it in the group - good reasons you don't need aerobars for. If you do extra long rides (over a century), put on aerobars. That doesn't mean you won't have a sore back though, but it all depends on whether you raise 'em up, right? The reasons I put on aerobars are: I didn't ride lately for like two months, so figured to keep myself motivated (get higher mph) I'd change to aerobars. Another reason is coolness factor - looks funky but serious. In addition, I am skipping the stage race and was gonna do some training alone anyway. Well, guess what: I don't feel like riding anymore due to weird handling. Plus all these tubes and extra weight make me uneasy and just destroy the purpose of what used to be my cool light road bike - climbing is really my priority. But since I am back together with the team, I am planning on changing to the regular bars tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry for the long message, I just had to vent a little bit. Hope I got my point across.
Woof the dog
Sep 1, 2001 8:51 PM
|Impressive post. I didn't get through the entire thing, or even half of it, but just for sheer number of words and density, you've done some really nice work. ;-)|
|P.S. When I said "density"||mike mcmahon|
Sep 1, 2001 8:53 PM
|I was referring to the fact that you put a large number of words into a relatively small face. It was not intended as a reflection on the substance of your post. :-)|
|Ya||Woof the dog|
Sep 2, 2001 12:27 AM
|well thanx. I find that the more I write (in terms of frequency), the more dense my posts become. I just can't talk about an issue without involving other issues that are, I feel, as important. See, there i go again....I'd better go away now.
Woof, 'i have time for this' dog.
Sep 2, 2001 2:00 PM
|Woofer, Bro, take a puppy lude and go lie down on your blanket Guppy.|
|Good Essay! Thanks. (nm)||Chen2|
Sep 4, 2001 9:16 AM
|re: Aero bars||Dog|
Sep 4, 2001 2:58 PM
|Aerobars are indispensible on longer rides, say over 100 miles. Unless you are a "pure" road racer, get the aerobars for the long rides. You'll be faster and more comfortable.
They are fun to use for personal bests for time trials, too. Nice to get low and narrow and cruise over 25 mph.
|re: Aero bars in TT's||Tig|
Sep 5, 2001 8:25 AM
|Our club TT is a short 10 miles. My best time was with aerobars. I tried it without aerobars one time and almost blew up trying to stay above 24 MPH! Same gearing, bike, and conditions, but without the aerobar I wasn't as efficient. That taught me the value of them.
Learning to relax on them and belly breath can really boost your average speed.
|Dirty pink roses and my small fridge||Woof the dog|
Sep 6, 2001 10:59 PM
|remember that when you are in aerobars, you won't be able to brake...'cause you gotta take your hands out of the pads. Imagine dying from exhaustion at around 100 mile mark and swerving off into a ditch. I remember there was a story about a guy during a tt who either killed himself or really got injured. Moral of the story - don't put your head down even if your position really makes you want to. Plus, in the crosswind you may feel very insecure for good reasons. I can actually ride out of the saddle while in aerobars, not that its hard....just sketchy and weird. Aerobars are fun for shorter faster time trials. I never done a century with aerobars since its a sin to raise your whole setup once u add aerobars 'cause then you sacrifice airdynamics for comfort. I don't do that, which makes my back hurt. Oh no, I need to take my puppy lude right now.
Woof the dog
|Dirty pink roses and my small fridge||mackgoo|
Sep 7, 2001 12:47 AM
|May be you otta consider a continuos drip.|| |