|Ah... that new chain feelin'||Duane Gran|
Aug 31, 2001 3:58 AM
|I just thought I would throw out a little suggestion to the group. If your bike ever gets that not-so-fresh feeling, consider replacing the chain. I just put a new chain on my bike and it is silky smooth. Not only does it shift and glide along nicely, it makes virtually no noise. Silence is golden on the bike!
Now at this point some will ask how you know when a chain should be replaced. Be warned, this is a matter of much voodoo and is just below the controversy-level of asking which lubricant to use. Ask a dozen people and you will get a dozen different answers. That said, I'll volunteer my opinion (at the risk of thread drift).
You could use a high zoot method, like measuring the links with a tool, but this isn't reliable. My chain had not stretched, but it was in bad shape. I could tell it was shot by two indicators:
1) It was majorly noisy even though I cleaned it
2) When cleaning it with a rag I would feel little jagged parts of the chain... basically it didn't feel smooth in the hand.
These aren't scientific methods by any means, but a bad chain is sort of like pornography. I can't define it, but I know it when I see it. (credit the statement to Supreme Court Justice Renquist)
|re: Ah... that new chain feelin'||PeugeotSuccess|
Aug 31, 2001 5:38 AM
|Enjoy it for the next couple of weeks! Then you will have to degrease the chain wax the manufacturer put on it and use your lube of choice. Guess what, it's gonna get a lot louder! Yeah it's real quiet now, but picking up a lot of dirt and grit due to the stickiness of whatever they use on those new chains.|
|Hey PeugeotSuccess.. great name||Dave Hickey|
Aug 31, 2001 6:10 AM
|Do you own a PX10?|
|Hey PeugeotSuccess.. great name||PeugeotSuccess|
Aug 31, 2001 6:30 AM
|No, I own a 2000 Peugeot Success with Tiagra (way underated, shifts great in my double front setup). True Temper DBS frame. Very smooth ride, good acceleration, could be better on the hills! (might be the engine). Got a great deal on ebay. $550 new. Bought it September 2000. Back in the PX10 days I rode a Gitane Interclub, just bought that bike back from a guy I sold it to 20 years ago! Tubular tires need replacing, still all original and in great shape for a 30 year old bike! Anyone know what Shimano puts on their new chains?|
|it's called cosmolene||alex the engineer|
Aug 31, 2001 11:51 AM
|and it's a wax protectant, not a lubricant. Remove it before you lubricate.|
|party pooper :(||Duane Gran|
Aug 31, 2001 7:23 AM
|Aw.. you had to mention it, didn't you? ;) Just kidding. I'm sure it will get noisy again, but for today I'm livin' la vida loca!|
Aug 31, 2001 2:05 PM
|You're going to realize that since your old chain was all beat up with metal burrs the chainrings and cogs are messed up also, since the chain is harder. It's a vicious cycle of wear. Normally I closely inspect all the teeth when a signficantly worn chain comes off a bike - usually the cause is inadequate lubrication of the drive train. |
Sorry to rain on your parade.
Just cleaning and lubing your drive train on a regular basis makes things last longer and then you really will be concerned about stretch. You also get the bonus of smooth shifting all the time.
|re: Ah... that new chain feelin'||Teddy|
Sep 3, 2001 9:34 PM
|Are you guys cleaning your chains on the bike or using a chain cleaner? I used to take the chain off the bike to clean it, but it's a big pain, especially since I always have to replace that pin (Shimano chain). These days, I just use a chain cleaner and plan on replacing the chain more often.
By the way, Rehnquist isn't that imaginative. The "I know it when I see it" comment was made by Justice Potter Stewart in the 70s.