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Campy 8 speed to nine speed(11 posts)

Campy 8 speed to nine speedJKellum
Aug 23, 2001 7:52 AM
I was in the bike shop recently, and they said I can convert my Campy shifters from 8 speed to 9 speed with a small part. Anybody know how to do this?
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedCliff Oates
Aug 23, 2001 8:19 AM
There's a shift disk for the right lever that does this. I think I remember reading that 8 speed levers can be upgraded over in rec.bicycles.tech, but I'm not certain. I would send an email to Peter Chisholm at Vecchios and ask him what your options are. He could do the work for you, also, if you wish.
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedCliff Oates
Aug 23, 2001 9:34 AM
FWIW I did a search on Deja in the rec.bicycles.tech newsgroup and 8 speed shifters are upgradeable to 9 speed. I wasn't sure if the 9 speed shift disk fits in the 8 speed body, but apparently it does.

Beyond the shifter modification, you would need a cassette, chain, and freehub body to complete the upgrade. Derailleurs don't need to be touched (at least I left mine alone when I went from 8 to 9 on a Veloce and everything worked beautifully) and 8 and 9 speed chainrings are the same.
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speeddplummer
Aug 23, 2001 9:04 AM
Yes, this can be done. There is a shifter pod inside the ergo lever, you just need to buy the shifter pod and you're all set. Like anything else, the first time you do this may be tuff, but if you ever need to down the road, it will be a snap. But then of course there is the issue about the new drive train, chain, cassette, and rear der. If you go to Campy's website, they actually have a downloadable adobe file on how to do this.
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedJack S
Aug 23, 2001 9:54 AM
I did this... you need a shift ring for the right lever, chain, cassette body, cassette (or spacer kit), narrow 9-spd derailleur pulleys and pully bolts (you can grind down old one if cheap). You're probably looking at about $200 if you do it yourself. Branford Bike and the Campy Only sites are great resources, but be warned, the shift ring can be a b!tch to replace.
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedJKellum
Aug 23, 2001 11:29 AM
This may be a stupid question, but is the cassette body the same thing as the hub? That is, do I need a nine-speed hub as well (and therefore rebuild my wheel), or can I just buy the part that cassettee slips into?
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedCliff Oates
Aug 23, 2001 11:57 AM
Cassette body == freehub body -- it is the part of the hub the cassette slides onto. The cheapest way to get a freehub body is to buy a new Veloce hub, then swap the freehub bodies. When I upgraded to 9 speed, I bought new wheels since my old wheels were very poorly built using very heavy components. I had Excel build a new pair of wheels for me. Also, you do not need to replace any part of the rear derailleur. Branford says you do, but my experience contradicts this.
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedJack S
Aug 24, 2001 8:00 AM
Actually the freehub body is the cheapest way, at least according to the Branford prices. But if you're gonna get a full hub, you'd better make sure the bodies are compatible... I don't think bodies from hubs with the oversize axle (i.e., new ones) are interchangeable with the older ones using the non-oversize axle, but could be wrong.

The need for pulleys (and bolts) depends on wheel dish. If you don't use them, there is a chance that the cage may hit the spokes. Also, if you change don't cheap out and just get the pulleys... the bolts will be too long and will extend beyond the cage plates (and may hit the spokes). You can grind 'em down, but who has time for that?
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedCliff Oates
Aug 24, 2001 10:42 AM
Veloce hubs are $55 from Branford, while they charge $70 for the freehub body. Veloce hubs use a steel axle, not the new oversized aluminum axles that were introduced relatively recently. As far as the pulleys go, I didn't change them and I had no problems. Sometimes bike shops like to sell stuff that their customers don't really need.
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedJack S
Aug 24, 2001 11:19 AM
the difference is the Veloce hub has that old dark brown steel freehub, while body that is sold separately is aluminum... when I changed everything but the pulleys, the cage hit the spokes, so like I said it prob depends on wheel dish.
re: Campy 8 speed to nine speedCliff Oates
Aug 24, 2001 12:54 PM
I had a pair of touring wheels built around Veloce hubs late last year by Vecchios. The freehub body is a bright silver alloy. Peter Chisholm's (owner of Vecchios) usual practice when doing 8 to 9 speed upgrades is to cannibalize Veloce hubs. Since you needed new pulleys and I didn't, it sounds like the original poster should check clearances in the workstand and buy them only if they are required.