|Campy Permalink chains||Eric H|
Aug 20, 2001 3:52 PM
|I am considering the switch from the S-world to the C-world, and I am wondering what other people's experiences have been with the Campy 10spd chain and the Permalink. Are they reliable? Is there any other chain which is narrow enough to be used with the C-10? I really prefer to have the ability to remove my chain for cleaning, and thus prefer Sachs chains.
Thanks in advance.
|just say NO to Permalinks ... ;o)||JohnG|
Aug 20, 2001 5:35 PM
|OK, I'll bite on this one. |
I've got about 4500 miles on my C10 chain and it has less than 1/32" measured stretch. I originally put the chain together with the C10 permalink but have subsequently "broken" the chain three-four times with a chain tool. I've also assembled several other C10 drivetrains WITHOUT the Perma link. If you have a good 'shop grade' chain tool this is really a NO-BRAINER type of install. However, don't attempt this install with one of the little cheesy chain tools..... you really do need the finesse and control of the bigger shop type chain tools. I use the 'large' Park chain tool and it works muy bueno for this install. YMMV!
I'm collecting perma-links and will probably make some kind of sculpture out of them in the future... ;)
Another alternative (one I haven't tried ... and won't) is the removable SRAM link. They have delivered the C10 link so I'm sure your LBS or vendor can get them. I have NO experience with their C10 link. The big pic I saw of one looked kinda cheesy. Several people have posted about this link so maybe someone can correct me on this.
Anyone wanna buy a C10 permalink tool? ;)
Aug 21, 2001 5:03 AM
|Which chain tool do you use on your Campy chain?? And no, I don't want to buy a campy chain tool - my permalink is going the way of the dodo.|
Aug 21, 2001 7:24 PM
|I use the Park CT-3 tool. I ordered it from Performance I think.
|re: Campy Permalink chains||mackgoo|
Aug 20, 2001 5:43 PM
|Check Branfordbike.com they have a replacement for the perma link. Come into the light.|
|Come into the light my friend||PaulCL|
Aug 21, 2001 5:01 AM
|..and join us in Campy land. I made the switch to Campy two years ago and will never return to the dark side (hey, just a joke guys).
As for the permalink, I put 3800 miles on a permalink chain without problems. Then got 200 miles on a new permalink chain when the link fell out (I was trying to do an "endo" on my bike - thanks Skip!). The LBS didn't have a replacement link, so I had to buy a new chain. Nobody told me that I could skip the permalink and put 'em together the old fashioned way. If you bypass the permalink, you will never have any problem.
Now I have a chain on my bike with 500 miles and a brand new chain in a plastic bag. Anyone want to buy a Campy 10spd chain sans permalink??
|LBS is probably worried about lawyers...||JohnG|
Aug 21, 2001 8:13 PM
|and their own inability to do a proper install of the chain without the PL.
As you have experienced .... improperly installed PL's can be a real hazard too. Hope you weren't hurt.