|College kid needs wheels!||Greyhound|
Aug 12, 2001 4:29 PM
|Sorry to bring up an old question, but I need some wheels for racing and training, and have been looking around a lot, especially at the benifites of aero vs. light. I work at a bike shop, and have been told by various people there, depending on their stance on aero vs light, CXP33 or open pros. I said why not ksyriums, they said poor college kid wants to buy $150 replacement rims when he crashes? I said no. So the question is CXP33 vs open pros. And if I go Cxp33, should I then also get bladed spokes? And hubs: DA or King? Any response would be apreciated.|
|re: College kid needs wheels!||Hank|
Aug 12, 2001 5:23 PM
|I'd say Dura Ace with Open Pros are hard to beat for the money. Unless you can get a killer pro deal on something. Actually, you might be able to pro deal those King hubs, in which case they might be a good option, too (though the rear is kinda noisy). Aero rims are heavier and can be funky in cross winds (haven't ridden the CXP33s myself, though). Make sure you find someone who knows how to build wheels. If you're gonna use 'em for training and ride in rain, go with 14/15 spokes with brass nips. It's not too big a deal, really -- just get some good tires. Have fun.|
|re: College kid needs wheels!||Roadster|
Aug 13, 2001 8:49 AM
|Open Pros and Dura Ace are more economical and provide a good overall set-up for racing with little downside. Chris King hubs are excellent - light, super smooth, easy to service - but also pricey. If you can afford them, great. If not, Dura Ace is nothing to shy away from.
The CXP-33 rims are more aerodyamic and stronger because of the higher rim profile but also heavier. They are more suited for use in crits than hilly road races with a lot of climbs. You don't necessarily need bladed spokes for these rims and the benefit is marginal.
Without knowing what type of racing you plan to do, I would go for the Open Pros because they give all-around performance. If you are a triathlete or time-trial specialist, then the CXP-33 would be more appropriate. Hope this helps.
|re: College kid needs wheels!||grzy mnky|
Aug 13, 2001 5:27 PM
|Go for a quality hand build of OP's and Shimano DA hubs with DT spokes. It's a good economical setup and you'll need more than one pair. If you race you're going to crash and you need to keep your reoccuring wheel expense under control - more money left for Betties and beer. In time you'll be able to build your own wheels. The esoteric high end stuff is great, but it's hardly cost effective. Once you get a sponsor (or a high paying job) you can let them pay for all of the swank components. Also, the Chris King rear hub sounds like a friggin' buzz saw when ever you coast. At a suggested retail of $325 for the rear hub alone you could put together and entire pair of wheels.|
Aug 13, 2001 7:14 PM
|last time I was working in shops King offered a pretty good pro deal to employees, so that might be an option (whereas I always got my Shimano stuff the same place everyody else does -- Nashbar, etc.). Yeah, those rear hubs kind of loud, but the design, weight, customer service and durability are pretty impressive. But remember, you don't get skewers!|
Aug 14, 2001 4:45 PM
|Mavic has probably the most generous employee purchase program in the bike industry. You are assured 15% off wholesale, and can probably talk yourself into ~30% off. The downside is you have the last priority in back orders, so it can take a LONG time to get stuff. But last time I checked, you could get a pair of Ksyriums for less than a pair of King hubs. As for replaceability, your pals need to check prices before they shoot off their mouths; retail of a new Ksyrium rim is $80. And, having sold 25+ pairs, only one has needed to be rebuilt- it was run over by a Suburban. I have yet to see a crash that could hurt a Ksyrium. Add to all of this that the wheel is being discontinued at the end of this year, you should be able to get a good bargain.|
|Discontinuing Ksyriums ? ? ?||DCW|
Aug 16, 2001 8:15 AM
|Why? What's next? |
I love my K's and don't expect to replace them for a long while, but I am curious.