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tic ... tic tic....tic....tic tic tic.......AHHHHGG!!!!!!!!(7 posts)

tic ... tic tic....tic....tic tic tic.......AHHHHGG!!!!!!!!linus
Aug 11, 2001 9:26 PM
I just bought a new 2000 Klein Quantum Race w/Rolf Vector Comp wheels. Something is making noice (not chain rub, the chain is also loobed, it is not sticking...as far as I can see). The noice seems to be comming from the rear hub area when I peddle. Is it the ultegra rear der., hub, what could it be? It is annoying the hell out of me. Is it normal? Am i being picky? This is my first road bike but my mountain bike does not make this tic tic sound. It is not a regular "beat" and it can sometimes be quiet if I peddle very easy.

I it also in combination with some creaking....maybe that part is normal....maybe I am too fussy but right now it is killing me. HELP
Click finderKerry Irons
Aug 12, 2001 11:52 AM
No, it is not "normal" to have clicking sounds when you pedal. However, it is fairly common to have the experience, but ticks and clicks are very hard to eliminate sometimes. What seems like it is tied to the pedals may be coming from the seat post, etc. Sometimes things like temperature and humidity can affect noises as well. To eliminate chain ring bolts as the problem, take them all out and grease the threads, the faces where they contact the CRs, and the CRs where they contact the crank spider arms. Clicks like this can come from the BB (grease all threads in contact with the frame and BB, and torque it to the recommended settings, which can be quite high), the pedals (grease the threads, get some wax etc. on the cleats, grease the bolts into your shoes, squirt some lube into the guts of the pedal machinery if possible), the chain (clean and lube), your seatpost and saddle (grease the post, seat post bolts, saddle rails), your bars and stem (grease the stem, stem bolt at both ends, h'bar bolt, and h'bar where it goes through the stem), and your wheels (check for spoke tension, particularly on the rear non drive side, put a drop of lube where each pair of spokes cross). Needless to say, you want to try these things in what seems like the most likely place the noise is coming from, but there are plenty of stories about "I was sure the noise was in the handlebars but it went away when I tightened up the spokes in the rear wheel," so keep trying different things until you have success.
good list: here's two moreJohnG
Aug 12, 2001 3:31 PM
I had an intermitant "click" that followed me through three builds. Turned out to be the Ti skewer axles rubbing on the inside of the front and rear Chorus Al hub bodies. Yeowser! After I put a tiny bit of lube on the axle shafts the noise went away.

**Skewer and dropout noises are pretty common and they can propogate through the frame making it difficult to localize them.

Also, could be a nipple/ferrule interface creak. A little lub on each nipple/hole interface might do the trick.

good luck.
JohnG
1 morehectolyte
Aug 14, 2001 4:59 PM
I had a tic that was driving me crazy on my bike. It turned out that the extra cable from the front derailleur was bent outwards so every pedal stroke, the crank arm would lightly hit it and my bike would go "tick". Drove me nuts.
Process of eliminationlongfellow
Aug 13, 2001 2:39 AM
You have to do this logically.
First thing you need to try is putting another set of wheels on there.
This will solve half the problem right off.

I had a tick with some Rolf Comps and it was the presta valve sticking through the rim. It was hitting the rim every rotation just enough to make a noise. I swore it was the hub, but it wasn't.
Put some electrical tape on valve and it was gone.
Process of eliminationhwy45
Aug 13, 2001 3:17 AM
You just solved my problem. I read this post with interest because I had a similiar noise coming from the front of my bike. I have Comps on my bike and I would get a noise when I was climbing out of the saddle. It's a metallic noise of something being tossed side to side. I thought spokes but no problem there. Of course it's the long stems on the tubes. You made my day thanks.
Rolfs are noisy wheelslonefrontranger
Aug 14, 2001 12:35 PM
I had a set of Rolf Vector Comps on my '99 Trek 2300 (RIP). They alternately creaked, squeaked, ticked and made the dreaded Rolf Hub Warranty Noise (high-pitched rotary squeal). Could never figure out how to fix the RHWN, and since mine was intermittent, I just grinned and bore it. A teammate with RHWN spent much time and effort shipping wheels back to the mfgr. and never solved it. I believe Rolf redesigned the Comp hub seals in 2000 specifically for this issue.

The valve stem answer is a great start. In my specific case that was one of many things I tried that wasn't the answer. My ticking originated in the spoke crosses - those flat Comp spokes rub together, and with just a fractional amount of grit in between, they will make an intermittent metallic ticking creak that gets worse under load (read: it will drive you absolutely insane on any climb). Lube all the spoke crosses, and while you're at it, lube your saddle rails at the clamp (can't hurt, and it's an often-overlooked spot).

My solution to the Noisy Rolf demons was to get a Colnago Dream with Mavics : ) Fixed those little buggers right up, it did!