|Opinion on using Mavic cass. on Campy drivetrain.||mannyc|
Jul 29, 2001 11:21 PM
|I needed opinions on the performance of Mavic Cass. on Campy Chorus drivetrain.I have to use the Mavic cass. because my wheelset are Mavic Heliums,and building up a new bike with Campy.Do they shift as good as a chorus cass?How do they perform?Any problems encountered using this set up?Thanks.|
|I tried a Mavic CC10, which I'm not sure would be used with||bill|
Jul 30, 2001 6:37 AM
|a Helium hub. Mavic also makes an M10, which I believe is specifically for their hubs. I'm not sure what would be the difference, since they're both Shimano-compatible hubs, and I would not think that the cogs would be any different in feel. |
I didn't like the CC10 very much. Not only did the cassette have some compatibility issues with my Cane Creek hub (my LBS, which is pretty good, only managed to get on 9 of the 10 cogs), but the shifting wasn't that great. I went to the Wheels Mfg. 10 sp. cassette for S-compatible hubs, which I thought worked great. It is a little pricey, a little bit heavy, and a bit limited in cog selection (I believe that all of their cogsets begin with an 11 cog, although you may be able to mix and match; I didn't look into that), but the shifting was noticeably better, and all 10 cogs fit onto the hub.
This was a year ago. Mavic (and Wheels) may have changed things since then.
|M10 hubs and Heliums||unobtainium|
Jul 30, 2001 7:18 AM
|The Mavic M10 hubs have a freehub that is longer than standard Shimano freehubs. That is why they have a "positioning wedge" on them that you remove if you install a Mavic M10 cassette. Otherwise you leave it on to install a Shimano cassette. Helium wheels are NOT M10 capabable. You have to use a 10 spd Wheels Mfg cassette which works great (I use one on my Heliums). If you have a M10 Mavic wheels (I have Cosmos which are) it is possible to make you own 10 spd Shimano cassette to fit. You have to reduce the spacer thickness by .008"(using a flat file), add an 11 tooth cog and get a 11 tooth lock ring. I did this with a DurAce 23-12 and it works but frame clearance is tight(.006") with the DurAce as the 17-19 cogs cannot be split as can the Ultegra. You cannot do this with a Helium unless you get the 19-23 gear cluster machined.|
|sell the heliums....||C-40|
Jul 30, 2001 8:43 AM
|In the long run, you'd be better off to sell the heliums and get a campy compatible wheelset.
The Mavic cassette won't fit and the Wheels Mfg. cassette is $130.
Colorado Cyclist currently has sales on all custom wheels with free shipping. Lots of choices that are as light as Heliums.
|Well, it appears he probably could use the Mavic CC10, which||bill|
Jul 30, 2001 9:41 AM
|is a little bit cheaper (although still fairly pricey at about $100, if I recall, and may not work quite as well as the Wheels cogset). The poor guy thought that he could get away with a slight modification in the drivetrain for relatively modest sums, and now you're talking him into spending another $200 at least. |
But I hear what you're saying. I ultimately decided to sell my Cane Creeks because I couldn't switch out my Ksyriums and Cane Creeks without readjusting the rear derailer because of the slight incompatibility between the Wheels cassette on the Cane Creek hub and a Chorus cassette on the Ksyriums. While the adjustment could be made with the barrel shifter, it was just enough of a pain (along with realizing that I NEVER used the 11 cog) to make me want something a little more elegant.