|Velomax vs. Ksyrium vs. Ritchey WCS||TommyBoy|
Jul 16, 2001 11:24 AM
|I am planning to upgrade my wheels to either Velomax Ascent, Mavic Ksyrium, or Ritchey WCS. What does experience tell you? Any comments? The Ritchey's have by far the lowest $'s per gram ratio, and I have always respected Ritchey designs which are well built if not fancy. I am not particularly heavy (170 lbs) so I'm not that concerned about stress issues.
Thanks for the input!
|re: Velomax vs. Ksyrium vs. Ritchey WCS||Jofa|
Jul 16, 2001 2:15 PM
|They'll probably all work fine, sort of, so choose the ones which you think look nicest. But for less money you could get better wheels such as.... (I'll leave this blank for someone else to fill in...)|
|re: Velomax vs. Ksyrium vs. Ritchey WCS ...Fill in the blanks...||speedmaestro|
Jul 16, 2001 9:18 PM
Jul 17, 2001 2:11 AM
|...not exactly what I had in mind. I was thinking groupset hubs, box-section rims, db round spokes...|
|re: Velomax vs. Ksyrium vs. Ritchey WCS||Mike K|
Jul 18, 2001 12:35 PM
|You might want to rethink the "not particularly heavy" part - at 170 (same as I am) you are at or beyond the threshold of a lot of the ultra light stuff. Velomax does not recommend Ascents for people over 180 and suggests an evaluation of set up and riding style to people over 160lbs. (see my reviews of both Ascents and Ksyriums at this site)
I'm sure a lot of people have had a good experience with Velomax but mine totally blew. I purchased a set of Velomax Ascents, the rear was badly out of true after less than 300 miles (vertically and laterally) - the front was OK. Velomax wheels are a pain in the a$$ to true properly as well because of the high tension required especially in the non-drive side of the rear wheel.. After neither I or 2 LBS's could get the thing straight and to stay that way I finally got my money back and got a set of Ksyriums - should have done that in the first place... Over a 1000 miles on the Mavics now and nothing to complain about.
I have not had any experience with Ritchey wheels but have always found their other components to work well.
|A different view||Ian|
Jul 18, 2001 5:46 PM
|I weigh 210 lbs and am coming up on 2000 miles on a pair of Orion Comps. After an intial truing of the rear wheel after 100 miles or so, they have been wonderful. I got these over the K's mainly because everyone has K's, and now I'm glad I did.|
|you should go with Ksyriums||Woof the dog|
Jul 18, 2001 11:48 PM
|Not sure about the weight of Ritchey WCS, but I am pretty sure, Ksyriums are a bit heavier than Velomax, which means they are sturdier. Don't go stupid light on wheels, especially if you are 170 lbs (yes, I would say thats up there by cycling standards, no offense). Ksyriums seem to be very popular, implying they were tested more on the road and maybe improved more (not sure about that one, but heard they make them a bit heavier now). A lot of racers, including LA (i saw K's on his TT bike i think), ride these probably because the wheels live up to the standards...i.e. can take the abuse. But wait, why go with all these boutique wheels? You can have an even lighter (or at least equally light) and stronger wheelset with DA hubs, DT rev spokes, relatively light rims. You would really know what I am talking about after buying stuff that is not reliable. Most of the boutique clincher wheels I see are either heavy (rolf, shimano), stupid light/flimsy/sketchy (anything under 1500gr.), or non-traditional design (Ksyriums and many others). Many here will tell you "my (boutique) wheels are the best...they are reliable and very light" but you gotta understand that many of those use such a wheelset for racing only, while others ride on it once a week for 20 miles, plus more of those have had the wheels for just a month. I am certain that given the same sample size, normal spoke/hub wheels have a lower failure rate than boutique stuff, although I don't have data to back that up (come on, its common sense + observation). Rumor has it, pro racers are sick of weird designs (oh oh, why does the name Spinergy come to mind?) and want Open Pro/DA/Dt wheels that are bulletproof.
Want cool looking stuff? Fine, go ahead, but don't come crying here saying: "After 4 months I am still waiting on Spinergy to send me a replacement wheel because they can't fix the old one" or "How do I true those Rolf's" or "my super light front hub is shot" or "I broke a Ksyrium spoke, OMG what do I do? (not that it happens often ;-) )"
P.S. I don't trust Ritchey because of their bad pedal rap.
Look what you triggered me to write tonight :-O
Woof, the dog Almighty.