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Old school newbie,,,,, Long rant.(10 posts)

Old school newbie,,,,, Long rant.cycleguy
Jun 24, 2001 11:00 PM
In the 70's I did all my own repairs and most I rode with. In the last 20 years I have left that up to LBS. But then I did not ride enough to really need anything since I got married, kids, etc. Well now I'm much older, not wiser. I had been riding the same bike for over ten years. Down tube shifters etc. Purchased a new OCLV last summer. What a difference. LOL

Anyway, I found myself unhappy with the answers I got when I asked those in my LBS about almost anything. Fit, components, etc. Nothing too technical.

I just bought a complete daytona group and have spent the weekend installing it on my old bike. Bought most of the correct tools, so I though. LOL Zinns book, read all the inclosed info. Yada, Yada, Yada. The tools have changed, the parts have changed. But untill you get in there and break a few things and see how things really work. You never know. Did not really break anything. But I did cut a housing too short and ruin a cable. Nothing I have not done before.

Bottom line. Things have changed alot in 30 years. But basic mechanical concepts remain the same. Oh, and you can still learn much more from your own effort then you can ever read about!
Jun 24, 2001 11:37 PM
on jumping back in and doing it yourself. Much more fun that way. And yes, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Me, too...Leroy L
Jun 25, 2001 7:30 AM
I rode religiously in the 70's - I had a PX-10 that I still miss - did all my own maintenence. Laid off for - oh - 25 years ? I've been back for about 1,000 miles this year...still love to work on the bike; still love to ride. I ride all the time now. I had forgotten how cool the sport is, and pleasantly amazed at how much better the equipment is. All the things I love about cycling have not changed a bit though!
Funny how you mentions breaking things...biknben
Jun 25, 2001 7:40 PM
Being a home mechanic myself I wish I had kept track of how many things I have broken over the years.

As a teenager I didn't have money to buy new stuff so I disassmbled what I had. Typically something would break, a bearing would disappear, an index shifter would turn into a friction only shifter, etc. This became my justification to have dad buy me new stuff. Hehe.

Nowadays, when I brake something, it's me who has to pay to replace it. The worst home mechanic disaster I can remember was a few years ago while tuning my MTB bike for a bike vacation. Only days before having to ship the bike, I destroyed the air cartridge in my suspension fork. Not able to find the replacement parts in time, I was forced to replace the entire fork. I think that one cost me about $450.

I've seen LBS wrenches break plenty of things. Fortunately, for them, they have a spare parts bin to dig through.
re: Old school newbie,,,,, Long rant.Chas
Jun 26, 2001 12:03 PM
I have also returned to the sport after a 30 year break. Did all my own repairs in the old days, always considered myself a good wrench.
Decieded to start riding again and built a 2300 trek from the frame up.
Only problem I had was installing the spindled dura ace crank. Seems the old eyesite is not as good as it used to be. Thought I had it on square and tight but stripped it the first ride. $200 dollar lesson. Oh well got it right the second time. Didn't have spindles in the old days.
biggest difference between new and old bikes...Dog
Jun 26, 2001 12:37 PM
Right now I have 4 bikes that almost could not be more different: 1980 Bianchi with Campy 6 speed, downtube shifters; C40 with full Record 10 sp; Bianchi EV2 with downtube front and STI rear; Bianchi Milano 7 speed Nexus hub. See what I mean?

The biggest difference between new and old bikes, I'd say, is indexed shifting. Old bikes you simply set the inner and outer stops, and took out the cable slack. New bikes with index, you have to fiddle with the darn things quite a while to get the indexing correct, and constantly need to readjust. I suppose on friction shifters you do the same thing, but just every time you shift.

Other than that, not a whole lot of difference, other than using nearly all clinchers now instead of all tubes back then (late 70's, early 80's).

Got to be more careful now, with Ti and even Al bolts, which were unheard of over 20 years ago.

My 1980 still has stock equipment, except for the rims and saddle, and everything works fine. I'd bet I'll not be able to say that about my 2000 or 2001 bikes (maybe the Milano).

a little off-topic, Doug, but how do you like the EV2 ?Leroy L
Jun 27, 2001 8:42 AM
I'm thinking about building one up with record or chorus.
Jun 27, 2001 3:17 PM
My 2000 was quite a bit lighter than the 2001. I sold the 2001, as it was a little heavier, and I didn't care for the looks of the sloping top tube after having it a while. No big deal, really, just prefer the normal tt.

The 2000 is extremely light, a very nimble climber. I can flex the bb a bit, though, when standing on a hill. Compared to my C40, it's a bit buzzier, the Al compared to the carbon, but then I never thought it was too bad when I had it. I took seeking out some rough roads to compare the difference.

I wouldn't expect to ride this bike for 10 years. I think it's more of a pure racing for a few years sort of bike. I'd treat it well, too. The aluminum tubing is pretty thin in spots.

Bottom line, it's a very good racing bike.

Thanks! [nm]Leroy L
Jun 27, 2001 4:36 PM
old vs rantcycleguy
Jun 27, 2001 8:24 PM
Nice to hear from those who have and are going through the same thing. When I was in the Navy, many years ago, we had a saying. If a hammer and crescent wrench does not work. Get a bigger hammer. Kinda used that same mentality on my bikes when I got out. Spanner wrench and hammer for BB. But it always worked. It's all in the wrist. LOL

Anyway I thought I had all the right tools, even advanced to the pol. correct torque wrench and all the specs. But I could not find the correct wrench for my new BB. A campy racing triple. Sorry Doug, this old guy with bad knees needs the old granny. :) For you purists still reading, close your eyes, I ended up using a pipe wrench. :( But I skipped the hammer. Well of course a few days later I checked out Park Tools web page and there is was. Hope it will be able to remove it when I get my new frame. LOL