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Wheel dilemma!lonefrontranger
May 13, 2001 2:38 AM
OK guys, here's your chance to vicariously spend someone else's money! I'm soliciting advice on what set of race wheels to buy for my C-10 equipped Dream.

I've wanted a Colnago since back in the days of my old Fuji tourer: "cheater brakes", toeclips, Suntour 6-speed stem shifters- a total geek delight. Due to some unbelievable luck, I'll shortly be the proud owner of a Colnago Dream Plus with Record 10. Quite frankly, I'm terrified to race it, or even take it outside. Shoot, I'll probably just stick it in the living room, build a shrine to it, and continue to race the Redline. (just kidding, maybe)

Due to past financial lack, I've lived out of a lot of teammates' junk boxes, and since beggars can't be choosers, I never cared much about details on my race bikes, beyond that the wheels were true enough not to hit the brake pads and the the shifters work by at least the second time I hit the lever (SO incredibly tired of secondhand 105...).

I'll build the Record hubs up into a nice pair of light training wheels, and they'll be about ten times better than anything I've ever used, but I want some lustalicious race wheels to go with the whole deal. My buddies are trying to convince me to buy Zipp 404's, but I sort of cringe at the thought of sewups, since I live in Boulder and we have lots of thorns, rocks and razor-sharp sand fragments on the roads out here. I'm also dubious about crosswinds on high-profile rims, since we get 30-50 mph winds on a regular basis, too.

Thanks in advance, and I appreciate any input.
re: Wheel dilemma!JohnG
May 13, 2001 9:11 AM
Depending on your weight (under 175# should be OK), you might want to look into the Aheads with Revos. Reasonably light wheels and pretty strong. I built mine with 14/15 on the drive side.

You should also check out the prebuilt wheels from American Classic.

Email them about Campy compatability. A few months ago they said they were working on their C10 hub. Should be available by now. Their front hub is insanely light. :)

dreaming of a Dream!
Yes to amclassic12x23
May 14, 2001 9:37 PM
I just got a new pair built with Velocity Aeroheads. 32 spokes rear, 28 front and the pair weighed 1427 grams.... 628 front and 799 rear. But, they might look a little plain on that Dream.
C or shimano hub? nmJohnG
May 14, 2001 10:08 PM
Shimano (nm)12x23
May 15, 2001 4:37 AM
re: Wheel dilemma!lonefrontranger
May 14, 2001 10:13 PM
"under 175# should be OK" :) Hmmm, let's just say I'm female, and 5'4', we'll leave it at that. I don't break bike parts as a rule.

Wow, those are swanky! And they say they come in different colors, too. I know the guys don't give a hoot, but well-matched accessories are a girl's best friend.

Thank you for the info. The guy who's hooking me up with the frameset also deals in AC, so I'll definitely give these a look-see.

The link (assuming it works) shows the LX14 color scheme I'm getting (but my Dream will have Record 10!):
zipps are great race wheelsDuane Gran
May 14, 2001 5:54 AM
You bring up some good objections to the zipps, but bear in mind that they are a race wheelset. If you get a flat with clinchers you are just as screwed in a race as if you flat with tubulars. Actually, if your tubes are glued on properly you may actually be safer, but that is a debate in itself. If the crosswinds are a concern you might opt for the 330 model which has less dish. The wheels are also available in both clincher and tubular rims. The clincher weighs more, but if that doesn't bother you then you might as well go for the simpler clincher route. I'll say this though... I love my Zipp 440 wheels and I haven't encountered anyone with bad things to say about them. Opinions seem to range from neutral to positive.
zipps are great race wheelslonefrontranger
May 14, 2001 10:26 PM
I think my general edginess with sewups goes back to a traumatic experience I had while living with my first racer boyfriend. Our team sponsor that year was Vittoria, and he got a whole bale of nice new sewups really cheap. So naturally, he decided to pull all his old, balding tubies off and replace them. Did I mention he had six wheelsets?

Anyway, the worst part of the ordeal was that he was out of Clement (red) glue, and opted to use Wolber (white). Most old-timers know it's a no-no to mix rim cement, but we were too lazy and stupid to strip the old stuff off first. Boy, did we ever learn the hard way. To make a very long story short, the glues acted as solvents for each other, and nothing would stick those tires to those rims. The base tape was totally saturated, and several bags of shop rags and a couple pints of mineral spirits later, we still had a soggy, mushy mess. That glue wouldn't stick to anything but the rags and us.

I still have nightmares of getting stuck to everything down in that basement: rags, tires, tools, wheels, newspapers - and then being swept out with next day's trash. But boy, can I lay a nice, straight tire! I must have installed each tire on each rim at least three or four times. At six wheelsets, that qualifies me as a pro mechanic, right?
speeddreams for the dream...keith m.
May 14, 2001 7:33 AM
what else could it be?
Special K's for the Specialgrz mnky
May 14, 2001 2:28 PM
You gotta consider the Mavic Ksyriums - truly a rocking wheel set.
Special K's for the Speciallonefrontranger
May 14, 2001 9:52 PM
Hi there

I've thought about the K's, very light, quick and not terribly high V section. But the only thing I can't get past is that they're sort of, well... the best description I can think of is homely. I know it doesn't mean much, maybe it's just a girl thing. Another girl on our ride tonight has them and says she think's they're sort of flexy.

I may borrow a set from a friend to ride a bit and see how they feel. Thanks!
Special K's for the Specialgrz mnky
May 15, 2001 10:11 AM
They're anything but flexy, maybe even homely. In any event I removed the disco stickers and they have a cleaner look. Try riding with a regular riding partner so you can have some basis for comparison.