|Is going to threadless worth it?||JohnIV|
May 2, 2001 11:49 PM
|I was wondering if the upgrade to a threadless fork/stem is worth the inherent cost of all the components that you have to purchase. I have a 1999 Trek 2500 with the quill carbon fork setup. I was seriously considering the Reynolds Ouzo Pro threadless fork with possibly a oversized Deda threadless stem/bar combo, and a Chris King headset. I would consider other brand alternatives. I was just curious if the difference in performance would be worth the price. Thanks for your advice.|
|re: Is going to threadless worth it?||Larry Meade|
May 3, 2001 6:00 AM
|You probably won't notice a big difference in performance simply by switching to a threadless system. The main thing you will accomplish is trimming some weight from the bike. The Ouzo Pro is an excellent fork. The only doubt I would have is that the 1999 bike you have probably has a 1" headset and some people find the carbon 1" steerer columns too flexible. I have an Ouzo Pro on one of my bikes with a 1 1/8" steerer and it is plenty stiff. I can't personally vouch for the stiffness or flexibility of the 1". Its just something to consider. As for performance versus price, its not worth the money. Looking at Colorado Cyclist, I see you would spend about $650 for the setup you are considering. Other than reducing non-rotating weight, you haven't really enhanced the performance much at all. A headset is not really a performance item. It simply keeps the front wheel rotating smoothly and a $20 Tange headset will accomplish this as well as a $100 King. It may not last as long but for the price, you could buy a new tange headset every 2-3 years and still come out ahead by the time you are ready to get rid of the bike. Personally, if I were looking to enhance performance, I would take that $650 and get a lightweight set of wheels built. You might even get two sets for that price. Bottom line is that if you are looking to increase performance, changing the headset/fork probably isn't the first place to look. If you like the looks of the Reynolds fork and King headset, go for it. Just don't expect it to make you that much faster.
|re: Is going to threadless worth it?||SLM|
May 3, 2001 8:47 AM
|Larry, good advise. I agree with most all of what you said.
Nothing against Chris King headsets, but it boggles my mind that there are those who are wiiling to spend over $100 for a roadbike heatset.
|then again ...||Breck|
May 3, 2001 9:32 AM
|have a 1" quill King head set on the 1995 Klein MTB and maybe 1,000 hours on it (no suspension up front either) and not one problem, adjustment, repair, etc. |
on the 1995 road OCLV have the 1" quill King headset and approx. 1,500 hours on rough back country mountain roads and not one problemo, etc.
just my experience with King. it's a delta cost of course as no head set is free.
|then again ...||Larry Meade|
May 3, 2001 1:31 PM
|I also have a King headset with a lot of hours/miles on it. It works flawlessly. So does my Tange headset. My point was simply that higher price does not equate to higher performance particularly in something like a headset that has a really limited range of motion while riding. If you don't notice your headset while riding, then it is working properly.|
|& then again ...||Breck|
May 4, 2001 12:28 AM
|Have not had the same luck with Tange headsets which were on both my 1991 Trek 750 steel MTB and later Trek 7000 Al Trek MTB. Both required quite a bit of re-tightening and servicing. I do run other headsets on other bikes, but my Number One rides road or mountain only run King. |
|re: Is going to threadless worth it?||mon t|
May 3, 2001 6:42 AM
|i did this a few years back. your bike will feel lighter at the bars, noticeably so. this is fun, but it will not make you you any faster. it's a kinda expensive way to lighten your bike, on a cost per gram basis, but what the hey! it's only money. do not listen to any baloney about 1 inch carbon steerers being too flexy. euros have been bombing down roads most americans would walk down on them for years with no problem. there is no advantage to 1 1/8 headsets in a practical sense (but that is another issue). you might want to wait a little though...there are several very cool new wing shaped, ultralight bar/stem combos coming out soon from deda and others. these will be the next rage, i believe. they will be on bikes in this years tour and out for sale later...|
|Go with AME||MJM|
May 3, 2001 10:26 AM
|I just installed an AME fork (1" steerer) on my litespeed with a Deda bar/stem and Chris King HS, and it performs flawlessly, NO flex at all. AME, has an excellent design and im my opinion, is the best on the market. Their all carbon fork (carbon steerer) uses an aluminum insert you epoxy to the inside of the steerer (where the stem clamps to the steerer). This insert has a star-nut already installed (no expander-type nut is used), it yields improved stiffness and increases the "crush" strength of the carbon steerer. In addition, they use a carbon rooting process that increases the strength at the base of the steerer, where the steerer meets the fork crown. |
You can buy directly form them, specify your rake, specify your stiffness (how much carbon rooting you want), get straight or curved blades, ready to paint, painted or clear carbon weave and the owner is a genuinely nice guy!
check them out...