|campy chorus vs shimano ultegra||daveo|
Apr 30, 2001 9:07 PM
|Is it true that chorus is much closer to record than ultegra is to dura ace? How do chorus and ultegra compare? How about chorus and dura ace? thaks dave|
|re: campy chorus vs shimano ultegra||Larry Meade|
May 1, 2001 4:52 AM
|OK, here we go.....
Record - Pricewise none of the aforementioned groups compare. It is about $400 more than either DuraAce or Chorus. It has the prettiest finish of the whole bunch.
Chorus - Usually very close in price to DuraAce and has very similar performance to Record but without all of the ti and carbon bits. Often this years Chorus is last years Record so the technology betweent the two is much smaller than the DA/Ultegra gap. Both it and Record are available in 10 speed where the Shimano groups are still 9 speed. Both chorus and record have a medium cage option for the rear derailleur. This allows one to use up to a 29 tooth rear cog.
DuraAce - Shimano's top group. Priced very similarly to Chorus. Performs great and shifts very smoothly. A little lighter than Ultegra due to the use of ti in some areas. DA and record are very close in weight so there is no noticable difference there. Shifters seem to be more realiable than the Ultegra version. Shimano is going to soon release a triple version in Dura Ace.
Ultegra - Solid performer. Not as smooth or durable as DuraAce but still works great and probably better than any group that was out 10 years ago. Cheapest of the groups in this discussion. If outfitting a bike to race, this is probably the best choice if on a budget. Racing is hard on equipment and cheap replacement parts are a plus. Noticable performance difference between Ultegra and Dura Ace as the shifting is not quite as crisp. Currently offered in triple configuration if desired.
As you can see, I did not say which is better between Campy and Shimano. This is the most heated debate in cycling today and is totally subjective. I have bikes with each of the above groups on them and they all work just fine. If I could only keep one bike, it would be the one with the Record group. I like the fit of the ergo levers and the nice looks of the group. Performance is really not $400 better than Dura Ace or Chorus. If you want Campagnolo on an Ultegra budget, Daytona would probably be the way to go.
|A couple of things to add...||Kyle|
May 2, 2001 8:59 AM
|The main reason D/A functions better than Ultegra is the shifters and less the other drivetrain components. If you're going with a double and you're getting the bike built up custom, Ultegra with D/A shifters is a great option. If that blows your budget, mix in a few 105 parts to pay for the shifter upgrade. I'm going to be less classy than Larry and say that Ultegra shifters are pretty lousy for the $$$ (though I haven't tried the 2001s yet.)
If you're going with a triple, I'd lean toward Campy due to the fact that the increased number of front der. positions (8 vs Shimano's 4) makes it easier to dial out chain rub.
Other than that, you can't go wrong with any of the groups you mentioned.
|Good advice all. Cycling+ just reviewed 2001 Chorus 10 sp.||bill|
May 4, 2001 9:48 AM
|and, without delving into the Campy/Shimano swamp or the Dura Ace/Record matter/energy problem, opined that Chorus/Ultegra is an unfair comparison and that Chorus really is just a notch below Dura Ace in function, weight, finish, etc.|
|re: campy chorus vs shimano ultegra||stoutga|
May 1, 2001 6:29 PM
|I rode 300 miles on both Ultegra and Chorus. I liked the Chorus better.|| |