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strange rimsbonsai
Apr 30, 2001 6:12 PM
I just found a rear wheel someone was throwing out the other day, it was an alloy rim, and a 5 speed rear hub. The name on the rim and the hub is "maillard" or maybe baillard? It also says made in france. Has anyone ever heard of this company? Is it any good? The rim is in almost perfect condition, the hub just needs a little grease..
HistoryKerry Irons
Apr 30, 2001 6:26 PM
Normandy begat Maillard begat Sachs begat SRAM. Or sort of. Anyhow, nothing special. You can look at the alloy and if it is a dull finish, you can be sure it's a fairly low grade, polished not anodized. If it has a satin finish, it is anodized. Look at the rim itself - it might not be suitable for today's hook bead tires. If the rim inner side wall is straight sided (no indentation or "hook") then it is not going to work with a modern tire. Chances are, with a 5 speed configuration, it is 27" and from some time in the 70s. Check out the rim diameter - if you cannot get a tire on it, then it's 27". Nothing to write home about.
May 1, 2001 7:13 AM
it is a clincher rim, and surprisingly looks fairly new. I think it has stainless steel spokes too. I'm pretty sure it's a 27... you mentioned tubular rims.. i put it up against a pair of 27" tubulars from the 70's, and it's the same diameter, so it's probably 27. The other rim I found with it was a steel piece of junk tubular.. maybe I can use this maillard rear for a while. I managed to get a front the other day at a small bike shop-a sun rim with some kind of shimano hub.. thanks for the info
Huh?Kerry Irons
May 1, 2001 6:45 PM
I didn't say anything about tubular rims? And what are you talking about 27" tubulars. Tubular tires/rims are by definition 700c. However your comment about "steel . . . tubular" makes me wonder if you're talking about those tank Schwinn "tubular" rims that came on mid-70s and before Schwinn tank bikes (Varsity, etc.). Tubular in that sense meant that the steel was rolled into a "tubular" shape to give the rim more strength than a plain, folded sheet metal rim (which you could easily flex in your bare hands until it was built up). If that is the rim you're talking about, it wouldn't take a modern 27" tire anyway, as tires are now hook-bead. You still need to check if that Maillard rim is straight sided or hook bead, or you won't be able to get the right tire for it. Such is what you get from the dempster.
May 2, 2001 7:23 AM
tubulars.. as far as I know, that's the only other type of rim. I only mentioned them because I know the difference between a tubular and a clincher. You're right, i'm talking about the "tank" schwinn tubulars. I have 27's on those rims right now (some guy in a schwinn shop told me that schwinn hp sports were the only tires that would fit my rims), and it's just barely making due, (I can only get 70psi in the tires before they start to come off the rim) and that's why i'm replacing the wheelset. This maillard rim is definitely a clincher, it has a little overhang on each side of the rim. you can't knock it though, saved a lot of money with that! i'm just a college student, I can't afford something awesome like the dura-ace wheelset! It's ok though, once I graduate, i'll probably start building up another bike.. something nice and light. thanks
Is it a Helicomatic?Cory
May 1, 2001 10:27 AM
I have an old Trek that came with Maillard Helicomatic hubs laced to 27-inch rims. They're still around the garage somewhere, though I swapped to 700c wheels for wider tire choice when I made the thing into a commute bike.
See if the freewheel's held on by a nut you can unscrew with pliers (they make a tool for it, but I have the last one). If it is, unscrew it and you can pull the freewheel off by hand. Sort of a cool design, easy to work on next to the road, but there were some issues with durability. Something to do with the placement of the bearings, I think.
My hubs are still in decent shape after maybe 15 years and thousands of miles, including an Indiana-California ride by the previous owner. But the freewheel disintegrated a few years ago, and you can't find them anywhere.
Is it a Helicomatic?bonsai171
May 1, 2001 6:07 PM
Heliocomatic? I'm not really sure.. I'm at school right now (2 finals to go!) but I should be home in a few days and i'll check. The hub is for a freewheel, but I didn't find anything on it when I picked it up. It's all good though, I'm going to use the 5 speed freewheel from my existing bike- a 1976 Schwinn Continental. This freewheel thing sounds very interesting though, I wonder if my freewheel will fit on that? All I remember about the hub is that it has a set of threads on it. Indiana to California? That's a hike!!! Wow. I'm sure in a while my freewheel will disintegrate too, I usually cover about 1,000 miles or so every year, and i've put about 200 on it already, which doesn't even count my grandfather who rode it before.. Still, these old bikes (and i'm sure your trek too) really seem to last well when they're taken care of.