|Attn OCLV owners: info on Icon weights||Java|
Apr 25, 2001 9:33 AM
|Since it is near impossible to find weight stats on the Icon parts that come stock with Trek OCLV bikes (and since I don't have access to an accurate scale), I emailed Trek and got the following info:
Icon Graphite handlebar (42cm I think, whatever comes stock on a 54cm frame): 254 grams
Icon Graphite seatpost: 189 grams
Icon Sterling stem (100 mm): 117 grams (!!)
I know that this only covers a few sizes, and it's Trek's claimed weights, but I just thought I'd share.
|Dark Secrets||grz mnky|
Apr 25, 2001 9:51 AM
|the first one is that virtually *all* of the manufacturers lie about their weights. They may have actually weighed a part and got that reading, but it was probably selelected and early in the production run before the die and tooling started to wear. |
I find that most of the ICON stuff is heavier than the higher end stuff - the handle bars being an excellent example. Deda, TTT, and Cinelli all make bars around 215 g. and sometimes less - although it's easy to find actual examples that weigh more. Someone has a website that has actual weights for darn near everything - it used to be part of the Western Wheelers web page before they redesigned.
I find the wieght of their 100 cm stem to be extremely doubtful at 117 g. when the Ritchey WCS is 125 g. and way more sophisitcated from a design and mfg. standpoint.
It's also a bit curious that they call their parts "Graphite" when they are in fact made from alu. alloy. To the unfamiliar you might think that graphite means carbon - as in, hey they're parts are all carbon fiber. Not.
I don't think any serious weight weenie would even consider buying any Icon brand parts, but it's interesting to see the info.
|I'll defend Icon...||TJeanloz|
Apr 25, 2001 5:58 PM
|First, a disclaimer: I hate Trek and all things controlled by the Empire. |
But in my experience, Icon parts weigh about what Trek claims they do. People just make the wrong comparisons. Trek claims the Graphite h-bar weighs 255g; similar to an ITM Pro260. People will consistently say: "My Icon bar weighed a TON compared to my Prima199 or EC90." No kidding.
Icon Sterling stems did, in fact, hit the low 120gs; until their ti bolts were recalled and had to be replaced with steel.
And seatposts. My Graphite post weighed 185g; less than the Dura-Ace it replaced. If we can all remember when 185g was a light seatpost- that was a whole year ago.
|Fair 'Nuf||grz mnky|
Apr 26, 2001 8:37 AM
|Yes, we gotta make sure it's an apples to apples comparison. No one mfr. seems to be immune to the recall bug in their quest for the lightest components. I owned a '96 5200 and dumped most of the prior version Icon stuff and lightened the bike. the newer Icon stuff seems to be a big improvement.|
|Simple ... icon is pig iron||Duane Gran|
Apr 25, 2001 11:35 AM
|As the other post said, don't trust these weights. I have changed out a seat post (for Thomson) and my handlebars (for Easton EC90) and when holding both items in hand I'm convinced that Icon stuff is just plain pig iron heavy. I love my Trek bike, but that Icon stuff has to go.|| |