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Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?(11 posts)

Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?mr tornado head
Apr 9, 2001 7:26 PM
Here's the scoop - looking for new tires for training/non-racing long distance riding. Looking to step up from my Conti sport 1000's but I don't need full out racing tires.

I've heard some good things about the Avocet Fasgrips, but don't see a lot of post on these. Conti Ultra 2000's are also pretty much slicks and in the same price range, as are the IRC RedStorms. The Performance Forte spec-wise seems to be in the same ballpark at about $10 less per tire. (I know Performance isn't making these - probably IRC, Panaracer or ???)

The other reason I was looking in to these is they all come in a 700 x 25. I ride on a lot of tar & gravel chip roads and it makes a big difference over 700 x 20's. I'd go wider but my seatstays won't allow much wider.

Comments from users, especially the Forte's. Dry/wet traction, cornering, ride quality, durability, wear...?

Thanks!
re: Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?BroBiker
Apr 10, 2001 7:21 AM
Last week I purchased Performance Forte Kevlar tires (700x 23). I don't have enough miles on them to comment but I've read good things about them on this and other sites. They are made in Japan.

Good luck,
BB
re: Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?Turtleherder
Apr 10, 2001 7:43 AM
For all the junk you read here about Performance their in house brand tires are not that bad for the price. I use them for the trainer and early season training. Early in the year there is more glass and rocks on the road so if I am going to ruin a tire I prefer a cheap one. That being said I have not actually ruined one yet, they hold up pretty well and do not seem to regularly suffer from catastrophic air loss (I will not say the "F" word and jinx myself). The ride quality on tar and chip roads is acceptable and I get about 1,500 miles out of them. I wear them down but not to the cord, your mileage may vary. I believe they are made by Panaracer in Japan.
Possible Avocet issue; Perf tires are fineCory
Apr 10, 2001 8:31 AM
I've used the Performance tires and like 'em quite a bit, especially for the price. Once in awhile I get serious and spend more for high-end tires, but I can't feel any difference.
Don't know if this is a common problem with Avocets, but here in the high desert (Reno) they seem to deteriorate pretty quickly from sunlight. I've never worn a pair out--one summer of fairly regular riding, and the rubber gets dry and starts flaking off. Same thing used to happen with Michelins, but I haven't used those in eight or 10 years so they may have fixed it.
re: Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?BC
Apr 10, 2001 9:35 AM
I have the IRC Redstorms. They flat a lot and do not seem very good in corners, they are a bit shaky.
re: Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?FL Rider
Apr 10, 2001 10:59 AM
Greetings,

I'm currently using a Continental Ultra 2000, and so far so good. Not a bad price, and I wasn't able to come up with the cash for anything more flashy(Axial Pro's or similiar). In any case I've ridden about 400 miles on it so far and it seems to wear well(using on the rear, front tire is a Hutchinson Success, that came original with the bike).

Compared to the Axial Super Comp. the Ultra seems to be a more accurate 23mm, the Super Comp seemed wide for a 23mm. While I am aware of some potential problems with Conti's sidewalls being fragile, its held up well so far.

Have not tried the Performance or IRC brands.

Good luck with your search,

david
re: Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?bruceg
Apr 10, 2001 1:50 PM
We use Avocet Fasgrips without the kevlar belt for the same type of riding you do. The 28 measures 25 wide and lasts about 2500 miles on the rear and 4000 on the front. It has a soft compound and a rounded cross-section so cornering and traction on clean surfaces is very nice.
performance tireskeith m.
Apr 10, 2001 8:04 PM
I've had two sets of these with NO PROBLEMS AT ALL. The 23's are 195 grams and ride very smooth, grip good, and are cheap. I do have alot of heavy gravel and glass where I live, so I need a tire that can take it.
re: Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?Rick Francisco
Apr 10, 2001 8:57 PM
I have been using the Performance Forte kevlar 700-26 for about a year
now, they are a good all around tire. Haven't got any flats with these
tires,they handle pretty well when the road is wet. Got them when they
were on sale around $24.00 each
re: Tires - Avocet/Conti/IRC/Performance?PatM
Apr 11, 2001 9:18 AM
My bike came with Conti 2000's and they were/are great. I have read a number of reviews about them having sidewall problems and one of mine developed that problem. When that happened I bought the Performance Forte Kevlar 700x26, cheap alternative and I thought I would give them a try. I did not like them compared to the Conti's just seemed so slow, so much so that I went back and put the Conti's back on. I used them over the winter and replaced them with Conti 2000's. I am not saying I would not try anything else but I am going to compare everything to the Conti's.
did your bike come with 23's or 26's?keith m.
Apr 12, 2001 6:54 AM
that could explain the difference in speed. the 26's will indeed feel slower.