|Record or Dura-Ace- which one?||js|
Apr 4, 2001 9:22 AM
|Trying to decide between Dura-Ace and Record. What are the differences? I want the best.|
|Oh no, not again.||PaulCL|
Apr 4, 2001 9:33 AM
|1. Different shifting. Campy has a thumb shift.
2. Campy can upshift or downshift up to three cogs at a time. DA can upshift (to larger cogs) by three, downshift only one.
3. Price: DA is less expensive. By several $100 bucks.
4. Same weight. Approximately. Weight weenies will follow this post with arguements of 5 or 10 grams.
5. Serviceability: Campy, generally, is more serviceable than DA. If you have problems with a Campy shifter, it can be taken apart and fixed. Shimano's, from personal experience, shifters are throw aways if they break. Personally, I have found Shimano parts and components more readily available locally. You can always mail order whatever you need.
Get on a bike with each set and try them. They are both premier products with which you will be very happy for a long time.
P.S. Re: my post just below this one. I just hit the "post" button and this post appeared. I couldn't resist answering. I have tried not to be biased either way.
|see the message string "Shimano vs. Campy" posted April 2...nm||Gary|
Apr 4, 2001 9:53 AM
|They're both good, pick one!||Bill J. Pappas|
Apr 4, 2001 11:40 AM
|What do you mean by the "best"? Are you talking about quality of shifting, durability,light weight, or overall quality of manufacture etc... Both Record, and Dura Ace are widely used( and "endorsed"!) by road riders, and they both perform very well. You should test ride both a Dura Ace and Record equipped bike, and decide for yourself which gruppo "works" for you!|
|re: Record or Dura-Ace- which one?||Chris Lowe|
Apr 4, 2001 2:38 PM
|Trying to pick the best between DuraAce and Record is like picking the best between a Ferrari or an Aston Martin: they're both fantastic and they're both more than you will ever need. |
DuraAce is nice because it's easier to maintain, more compatible with non-Shimano equipment and a tad lighter (not that you'll ever notice the weight difference while riding) On the downside it may not last as long over the years and the shifters are not as crisp as the Record shifters.
Record is nice because the shifters have such a wonderfully crisp and positive feel and everything has a really nice solid feel to it. On the downside you need more special purpose tools to work on Campy parts and the 10 speed system is less tolerant of cable stretch and goes out of tune mroe often than 9 speed systems.
Either way you **really** have to nitpick to find anything wrong with either group. You could just as easily flip a coin and still not make a bad decision.
|how can you by ready to spend $1000+ and not have decided?||DaveG|
Apr 4, 2001 3:33 PM
|I have to admit to being a bit perplexed how someone could come to the conclusion that they need a $1100-$1400 componnet group and not have a clear opinion on it. For that money you could buy both Ultegra and Daytona and have your own personal Campy vs. Shimnao debate. If you have money to burn, I'd go Record, but both groups are excellent. Good luck on your choice.|
|how can you by ready to spend $1000+ and not have decided?||Larry Meade|
Apr 5, 2001 6:05 AM
|I was thinking the same thing. If you have to ask which is better between DA and Record, you should probably be riding Daytona or Ultegra. Any subtle differences between the two higher end groups will be lost on you. Most people have very distinct ideas of what they want when they are looking at Record or DuraAce. If you don't know exactly what you are looking for go with the less expensive Ultegra or Daytona. You will lose out on bragging rights but not much on performance. Both groups are fantastic and it really comes down to which shifters you prefer. This is the single most telling interface between the rider and the bike. Some like the Campy shifters, some the Shimano. Try both and choose which you like best. Everything else is so close in performance as to be negligible.
|I'm gonna scream! (nm)||grz mnky|
Apr 4, 2001 4:23 PM
|Moot Point, same as asking Ferrari or Porsche||Pete|
Apr 5, 2001 4:11 AM
|You're pretty much hitting a moot point here. They are both top of the line components. What it should come down to is which performace do you like better? Which shifter feels better in your hands? which brakes feel better to you?...so on and so forth.
You might also want to consider the ease of spare parts like chains, cassettes, chainrings, etc. Does you local shop have them or are you going to have to always mail order?
I think your pretty much at a moot point as to which is better. I ride campy, my friend rides shimano, we are both happy.
|Record is the best...||dave|
Apr 6, 2001 1:35 PM
|There is no comparison. If you want the best, Record is it. Better finish, 10 speed, virtually identical weight. Ergo shifting is far superior.
DuraAce compares favorably to Chorus. Both are about the same price. Chorus is slightly heavier, but has 10 speeds, and is definitely better looking.
|Record is the best...||Leroy L|
Apr 6, 2001 2:16 PM