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4lbs heavy for a frame?(3 posts)

4lbs heavy for a frame?Muddy
Mar 13, 2001 8:23 PM
I have a chance to pick up an inexpensive frame($150.00US). My only concern is if it might be too heavy to be competetive with down the road. I will begin racing cat 5 this spring. Any opinion will be appriciated.

Muddy
re: 4lbs heavy for a frame?PatH
Mar 14, 2001 4:51 AM
Four lbs. can be a very respectable weight for a steel frame but there is a lot more to frame quality than weight. But $150? I don't know, seems pretty cheap for a race frame. Is it in good condition? What's it been through? Who makes it?
Some reference points and perspectiveDog
Mar 18, 2001 3:32 PM
The lightest frames are around 2.0 pounds now (not including fork - I don't know whether your number includes the fork). The lightest all carbon forks are around 3/4's of a pound. 4 pounds is respectable for a steel frame, but would be on the heavy side for anything else. A steel fork is likely about a pound and a half. So, that's in the ballpark.

Now, some perspective. Even the difference between the lightest frame on the planet and a 4 pound frame will never win or lose a Cat 5 race. All else equal, it would hurt you slightly on very long climbs, assuming all the other parts are the same weight. But, that's not usually the case. Frequently, heavier frames get heavier components. But, if you get some light weight wheels to go on that frame, you'd be ahead of someone with a light frame and heavy wheels (wheels are far more important). Bottom line, though, is that the motor (and the motor's brain) is 99% of the racing equation. You will likely never lose solely because of a heavier frame. Plus, get it and start racing. See if you like it before becoming a hard core weight weenie.

If you want to see objective, precise information concernign the effects of changes in weight on performance, go here and play for a while: http://www.analyticcycling.com. Don't get too hung up on it, though.