|Campy 11 speed!!!!!!!!!||Roget|
Mar 11, 2001 3:03 PM
|Just caught a glimpse of new Campy 11. Better stock up on those 10 speed parts, chains, shifters, etc. Just glad I still run Shimano.|
|You're glad to be with Shimano?||TJeanloz|
Mar 12, 2001 6:27 AM
|That was the most idiotic thing I've ever read. Look at how the two companies update their groups: Campy makes everything backwards compatible; Shimano makes nothing compatible. Ever try using a Dura Ace 9 lever with a Dura-Ace 8 derrailleur? Or Ultegra 8 with Dura-Ace 9? It doesn't work. Campy parts are entirely interchangable and upgradable. Did you buy a Campy9 group two years ago? You could make it a ten by switching the shift disc, cassette and chain. Never has Shimano been so cheap or easy to upgrade.|
|You're glad to be with Shimano?||DaveG|
Mar 12, 2001 3:11 PM
|I think this has all been covered before, but both companies are guilty of creating incompatibities. Yeah, you could switch Campy 9 to 10, but what are you gonna do with 8 speed? Same for Shimano 7 to 8/9 hubs. Yes, Campy has a good inventory of parts, but their parts do cost more, especially the high wear items. There still plenty of Shimano 7 and 8-speed cassettes out there. For a while, folks were having problems finding 8-speed Campy cassettes. Fortunately for both companies, we bike fanatics bike new stuff long before the old stuff wears out.
Campy owner, but not a zealot
|You're glad to be with Shimano?||Tom|
Mar 12, 2001 8:31 PM
|Actually even 8 speed cassettes are in current production and are available at Branford Bike, Licktons and many of the on-line UK bike shops.|
|Maybe Shimano will have 10 speed by 2003, LOL. (nm)||bartali|
Mar 12, 2001 10:00 AM
|sounds like BS ! post your source (nm)||dave_shepherdmsn.com|
Mar 13, 2001 3:07 PM
|any such rumor would be reported here -->||Dog|
Mar 14, 2001 5:24 AM
All Campy rumors are addressed there. They are really on top of things.
|They're still behind Shimano!||Chris Lowe|
Mar 15, 2001 9:21 AM
|Campy may go to 11 but that means they're still 3 cogs behind Shimano who have patented a 14 cog cassette. You can see drawings at the US Patent Office website.|
|They're still behind Shimano!||Larry Meade|
Mar 15, 2001 9:54 AM
|Shimano has in the past patented many things that never see the light of day. That particular patent has been around for a while and there aren't even any rumors of a 14 speed rear end coming out any time soon. However, you can see a picture of the new DuraAce triple setup at the http://www.shimano-europe.com web site. It looks very nice and quite unconventional. They attach the third ring to a modified second ring instead of the crank arm. Maybe this will allow riders to purchase the 2nd/3rd rings instead of having to buy a whole new crank. The rear derailleur uses 13 tooth pulleys supposedly to allow them to use a slightly shorter cage on the rear derailleur. I can't wait to see it in person eventually.
|There's still some ideas there...||Chris Jones|
Mar 16, 2001 6:38 AM
|Looking at that patent there's a lot of potential there, especially designing a cassette to fit around the spokes... Perhaps a 10 speed group that uses a rear wheel with even drive/non-drive tensioning and the same 130mm spacing? |
Still perfectly happy with 1997 campy 9.