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Campy 11 speed!!!!!!!!!(10 posts)

Campy 11 speed!!!!!!!!!Roget
Mar 11, 2001 3:03 PM
Just caught a glimpse of new Campy 11. Better stock up on those 10 speed parts, chains, shifters, etc. Just glad I still run Shimano.
You're glad to be with Shimano?TJeanloz
Mar 12, 2001 6:27 AM
That was the most idiotic thing I've ever read. Look at how the two companies update their groups: Campy makes everything backwards compatible; Shimano makes nothing compatible. Ever try using a Dura Ace 9 lever with a Dura-Ace 8 derrailleur? Or Ultegra 8 with Dura-Ace 9? It doesn't work. Campy parts are entirely interchangable and upgradable. Did you buy a Campy9 group two years ago? You could make it a ten by switching the shift disc, cassette and chain. Never has Shimano been so cheap or easy to upgrade.
You're glad to be with Shimano?DaveG
Mar 12, 2001 3:11 PM
I think this has all been covered before, but both companies are guilty of creating incompatibities. Yeah, you could switch Campy 9 to 10, but what are you gonna do with 8 speed? Same for Shimano 7 to 8/9 hubs. Yes, Campy has a good inventory of parts, but their parts do cost more, especially the high wear items. There still plenty of Shimano 7 and 8-speed cassettes out there. For a while, folks were having problems finding 8-speed Campy cassettes. Fortunately for both companies, we bike fanatics bike new stuff long before the old stuff wears out.

Signed
Campy owner, but not a zealot
You're glad to be with Shimano?Tom
Mar 12, 2001 8:31 PM
Actually even 8 speed cassettes are in current production and are available at Branford Bike, Licktons and many of the on-line UK bike shops.
Maybe Shimano will have 10 speed by 2003, LOL. (nm)bartali
Mar 12, 2001 10:00 AM
sounds like BS ! post your source (nm)dave_shepherdmsn.com
Mar 13, 2001 3:07 PM
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any such rumor would be reported here -->Dog
Mar 14, 2001 5:24 AM
http://www.campyonly.com/

All Campy rumors are addressed there. They are really on top of things.

Doug
They're still behind Shimano!Chris Lowe
Mar 15, 2001 9:21 AM
Campy may go to 11 but that means they're still 3 cogs behind Shimano who have patented a 14 cog cassette. You can see drawings at the US Patent Office website.
They're still behind Shimano!Larry Meade
Mar 15, 2001 9:54 AM
Shimano has in the past patented many things that never see the light of day. That particular patent has been around for a while and there aren't even any rumors of a 14 speed rear end coming out any time soon. However, you can see a picture of the new DuraAce triple setup at the http://www.shimano-europe.com web site. It looks very nice and quite unconventional. They attach the third ring to a modified second ring instead of the crank arm. Maybe this will allow riders to purchase the 2nd/3rd rings instead of having to buy a whole new crank. The rear derailleur uses 13 tooth pulleys supposedly to allow them to use a slightly shorter cage on the rear derailleur. I can't wait to see it in person eventually.

Larry
There's still some ideas there...Chris Jones
Mar 16, 2001 6:38 AM
Looking at that patent there's a lot of potential there, especially designing a cassette to fit around the spokes... Perhaps a 10 speed group that uses a rear wheel with even drive/non-drive tensioning and the same 130mm spacing?

Chris Jones
Still perfectly happy with 1997 campy 9.